So will it be manslaughter for Alec Baldwin?

[aFarewellToKings]

Channel 46 noon news reported it as a "prop" gun.....well we all know that ain't right. It was a real gun with real bullets and real death.

Serious question.....did he fire once and hit both people or did he manage to squeeze off a couple rounds? I haven't seen anything regarding this on the news.

They were huddled over a monitor. One bullet.

 

[aFarewellToKings]

It was not a props person, it was the second assistant director, IIRC.
Props person set out 3 revolvers on the table, he grabbed one of them, did not check it, handed to the actor.

Why would any of them be loaded (with non-blanks)?

 

[letusbuyyourcar]

Either way, Baldwin's career is over.

Ah the silver lining...

 

[Jeddak]

Why would any of them be loaded (with non-blanks)?

I do not know. That's for the sheriff to determine. Some say live ammo is never present on any movie sets, some say it is used sometimes..
Killed producer's next project was going to be a movie about pedophilia in Hollywood. Someone wanted her dead and switched the ammo???

I do not think we will ever know. Same as we do not know about the Vegas shooter.

 

[letusbuyyourcar]

They were huddled over a monitor. One bullet.

I asked the same question. But over the weekend I caught a YouTube vid by prop gun guy. He stated that in some instances the director will request a "Hero Bullet" which is bullet loaded into a case but with no powder or primer. These would be used in scenes using mostly revolvers where the front of the cylinder can be clearly seen along with each round in each chamber. In such a scenario they want the camera /audience to see those hollow points or round nose slugs pointing back at you.

Now I get that in principle. They're going for the most real accurate feel. But in this case and probably going forward it's just too damn risky. I know Hollywood people are WAY different but after the first ND on the set I would have told them either the wannabe armoror/should be porn slut goes or I go.

 

[GeauxLSU]

1) Why was there a live round on the set anyway?

That's the question I can't imagine an acceptable answer to.

 

[Jeddak]

I asked the same question. But over the weekend I caught a YouTube vid by prop gun guy. He stated that in some instances the director will request a "Hero Bullet" which is bullet loaded into a case but with no powder or primer. These would be used in scenes using mostly revolvers where the front of the cylinder can be clearly seen along with each round in each chamber. In such a scenario they want the camera /audience to see those hollow points or round nose slugs pointing back at you.

Now I get that in principle. They're going for the most real accurate feel. But in this case and probably going forward it's just too damn risky. I know Hollywood people are WAY different but after the first ND on the set I would have told them either the wannabe armoror/should be porn slut goes or I go.

The 24 year old was brought on the set AFTER the original armorer quit. He was the one who had NDs.

 

[spistols]

I asked the same question. But over the weekend I caught a YouTube vid by prop gun guy. He stated that in some instances the director will request a "Hero Bullet" which is bullet loaded into a case but with no powder or primer. These would be used in scenes using mostly revolvers where the front of the cylinder can be clearly seen along with each round in each chamber. In such a scenario they want the camera /audience to see those hollow points or round nose slugs pointing back at you.

Now I get that in principle. They're going for the most real accurate feel. But in this case and probably going forward it's just too damn risky. I know Hollywood people are WAY different but after the first ND on the set I would have told them either the wannabe armoror/should be porn slut goes or I go.

Kind of like the Colibri Quiet 22s? There is the bullet in the shell, and the only gunpowder is in the primer? Maybe someone forgot to take out the primer in the shell?

 

[letusbuyyourcar]

The 24 year old was brought on the set AFTER the original armorer quit. He was the one who had NDs.

Well I guess the trail of **** ups keeps going .

 

[Gaffer1968]

Why would any of them be loaded (with non-blanks)?

I've read where at least one of the 'prop guns' was used in after-hours target shooting or something. My guess is that it was never checked after having done that.