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Does "Got an AK" deserve a negative rating?

  • Yes! He said "done deal"

    Votes: 95 55.6%

  • No! No time or place to meet was set.

    Votes: 76 44.4%
  • Total voters
    171
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n.one.one said:
In my personal opinion:

Time and place - designating a city and a day is not the same as two people agreeing to meet at the ABC parking lot at 123 Main Street at 1:00pm today - seems like no time and place were set.

Done deal - When the other party (not the one who said deal) starts to re-negotiate and says:
"Would you happen to have the original handguards, grip and magazine for it? Box and papers?"
"How about this. Leave the rail on it and keep the (2) tapco mags in exchange, give me the factory handguards, steel mag and factory pistol grip. Fair?"
"Sounds good. In a perfect world, I would like the factory grip, mag, quad rail and factory handguards. Let's talk in the morning."
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These items all re-open the negotiations and at that point there is no longer a 'done deal'.

My opinion is that no deal terms or time/place was finalized and no negative feedback is justified...YMMV :D.
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The deal was done. If they say I'll take it. It stands like it's advertised, and agreeing on a city to meet sounds pretty firm. (This gives the buyer and seller some estimated amount of mileage that will be involved in the deal)

Some deals just ain't going to happen if folks aren't willing to meet somewhere in between, and at the onset of a deal a specific address and time for the transaction would be asking a little much. (I usually handle this with phone conversations and will not leave for a meet unless we have talked on the phone just prior to leaving for the meeting place.)

Asking about other accessories after you state "done deal" shouldn't void the deal or make it any less binding.
I'll take it/done deal, if you'll change the stocks, throw in a couple of mags., and some ammo, is not a deal that's a negotiation.


I've had people waste my time that had high FB with a 100% positive and a high post count.
It is a waste of time trying to coordinate with people to meet and then they sell it to their neighbor.

I've had people tell me they would take it and the deal not be completed for several weeks.( I'm usually not in a hurry, just so long as I'm not being jerked around waiting is not a problem)
The problem is some people are trying to sell something so they can pay their power bill. (First one here with the cash)

If you walk up to a guy and tell him that you are going to kick his ass, and then start to negotiate with him about tying one of his hands behind his back and blind folding him, and you get to use a ball bat, you probably just toted an ass whoopin.

I say done deal, If you want to back out on a deal at least be man enough to contact the other party and let them know your intentions. If you act like a man with integrity, then most likely you'll be treated that way.
 
snake dr said:
The deal was done. If they say I'll take it. It stands like it's advertised, and agreeing on a city to meet sounds pretty firm. (This gives the buyer and seller some estimated amount of mileage that will be involved in the deal)

Some deals just ain't going to happen if folks aren't willing to meet somewhere in between, and at the onset of a deal a specific address and time for the transaction would be asking a little much. (I usually handle this with phone conversations and will not leave for a meet unless we have talked on the phone just prior to leaving for the meeting place.)

Asking about other accessories after you state "done deal" shouldn't void the deal or make it any less binding.
I'll take it/done deal, if you'll change the stocks, throw in a couple of mags., and some ammo, is not a deal that's a negotiation.


I've had people waste my time that had high FB with a 100% positive and a high post count.
It is a waste of time trying to coordinate with people to meet and then they sell it to their neighbor.

I've had people tell me they would take it and the deal not be completed for several weeks.( I'm usually not in a hurry, just so long as I'm not being jerked around waiting is not a problem)
The problem is some people are trying to sell something so they can pay their power bill. (First one here with the cash)

If you walk up to a guy and tell him that you are going to kick his ass, and then start to negotiate with him about tying one of his hands behind his back and blind folding him, and you get to use a ball bat, you probably just toted an ass whoopin.

I say done deal, If you want to back out on a deal at least be man enough to contact the other party and let them know your intentions. If you act like a man with integrity, then most likely you'll be treated that way.
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couldn't agree more with this
 
snake dr said:
The deal was done. If they say I'll take it. It stands like it's advertised, and agreeing on a city to meet sounds pretty firm. (This gives the buyer and seller some estimated amount of mileage that will be involved in the deal)

Some deals just ain't going to happen if folks aren't willing to meet somewhere in between, and at the onset of a deal a specific address and time for the transaction would be asking a little much. (I usually handle this with phone conversations and will not leave for a meet unless we have talked on the phone just prior to leaving for the meeting place.)

Asking about other accessories after you state "done deal" shouldn't void the deal or make it any less binding.
I'll take it/done deal, if you'll change the stocks, throw in a couple of mags., and some ammo, is not a deal that's a negotiation.


I've had people waste my time that had high FB with a 100% positive and a high post count.
It is a waste of time trying to coordinate with people to meet and then they sell it to their neighbor.

I've had people tell me they would take it and the deal not be completed for several weeks.( I'm usually not in a hurry, just so long as I'm not being jerked around waiting is not a problem)
The problem is some people are trying to sell something so they can pay their power bill. (First one here with the cash)

If you walk up to a guy and tell him that you are going to kick his ass, and then start to negotiate with him about tying one of his hands behind his back and blind folding him, and you get to use a ball bat, you probably just toted an ass whoopin.

I say done deal, If you want to back out on a deal at least be man enough to contact the other party and let them know your intentions. If you act like a man with integrity, then most likely you'll be treated that way.
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On the flip side I do agree with what your saying. Instead of telling the guy "Hey ive found someone around the corner, im gonna deal with them" he should have said "Hey I have someone closer who isnt asking as much as u are. Anyway we can renegotiate the terms a little". Give the other party the chance to make it right or do better on their end. Either way I think too many people get butt hurt over stuff on here...PERIOD! I understand how it works on ODT and how "ill take it" works, but I still say and stand behind the fact that as long as no gas was used, money was spent, or specific time/place was set, then no harm no foul. I wont leave someone negative feedback if they decide they wanna trade with another individual thats closer to them and offering a better trade. I may cuss and be mad about it, but thats as far as it goes for me. Now you make me drive to Breeman Ga and not show up for a trade, im likely to place a hit on you! lol j/k
 
A negative feedback in my mind means that trader 1 waited in the agreed upon location at the agreed upon time and trader 2 either pulled a no show, tried to change the deal at the trade, or grossly misrepresented the firearm. In this scenario nobody's gas/time was wasted, purely negotiation. While what Got an AK did was ethically questionable, giving a negative feedback is akin to what Zesty said, "Giving this guy a negative feedback would attempt to value how good someone is at communicating. That's a slippery subjective slope." While we all love the ODT and want to think everyone has the highest of morals, it's still the internet. Chalk it up as a loss and move on.
 
This seems to happen alot, Trading Guy offers the Glock for the AK as listed, then after Got an AK takes the bait, Trading Guy haggles him to the nines about pointless details and then ends it with "in a perfect world I'd rather have ..... we will talk in the morning". If you offered me something for what I have listed, don't gripe about what it comes with AFTER I accept, you should have asked BEFORE you offered or stated that you have (fill in the blank) to offer, but you have a few questions first. It's hard to call, but Got an AK is getting hammered for saying done deal, but is expected to provide a perfect world for Trading Guy. I don't support going back on your word, but put yourself in his shoes before saying negative.
 
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