Should you get training?

[GeauxLSU]

Sure it's in there... Right beside muskets.

I am a purest, and prescribe to the basis of timelessness. It was written for the ages to be a stalwart. Just as religion, speech, and press. No infringement. Not training, not "sporting vs. military" purely as it states well organized militia. That word militia is definitive of the arms to be carried. If the US Army carries an M16... Civilians should have them. Is a line to be drawn on limits, I say no. Do you have to go to your county probate to get a permit for your bible?

Never understood why in hades this is so hard to understand. Some gun owners are our worst enemies.
If you WANT training, great, get it, knock yourself out. It'll probably make you more comfortable and confident (hopefully not overly so). If you don't want it, that's fine too. Enjoy that remaining vestige of freedom because you can smell it in the air even here... it's dyiing. We already need a 'permit' to carry in this state, it's a pretty short step to MANDATORY government approved 'training', obviously some states already require it.

 

[Byte Stryke]

I say we mandate civics and constitutional law classes in order to get a voter registration card, maybe even throw in an $80 background check.

 

[CQB27]

Most Gun owners would be better served buying a GOOD PAIR OF RUNNING SHOES and a BASIC FITNESS MANUAL before spending a dime on shooting instruction.

WHY......

1.) The majority of people are fat.
2.) Fitness is the first priority of any serious GUN fighter.
3.) You'll shoot better under stress, GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
4.) You'll fight better under stress and a load (gear), GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
5.) You'll feel better, even on your worst day.
6.) You'll have a better quality of life.
7.) THE BEST AND MOST DANGEROUS PREDATORS DO IT.
8.) IF YOU CARRY A GUN FOR DEFENSE/PROTECTION, IF YOU ARE FORCED TO FIGHT IT WILL BE AGAINST PREDATORS! If you don't think so, you will be better suited sticking to video games.

YOUR ABILITY TO FIGHT EFFICIENTLY IS DIRECTLY TIED TO YOUR HEART RATE. FIT PEOPLE START 35 TO 40 BEATS PER MINUTE (BPM) BELOW MANY AVERAGE AMERICANS. WHEN FIT FIGHTERS ARE AT 115 TO 145 BPS (OPTIMUM FIGHTING HEART RATE) AVERAGE AMERICANS ARE AT 175 TO 200 BPM.

A MODERATELY SKILLED (MINDSET, TACTICS, SKILLS) FIT FIGHTER WINS THAT BATTLE AGAINST A HIGHLY SKILLED (MINDSET, TACTICS, SKILLS) UNFIT FIGHTER EVERY TIME.

 

[mtdawg169]

Other schools. Most of the top Instructors that I know are also the best students.

Once you attend a few different classes given by competent, experienced Instructors you find that the "song" is pretty much the same although the "tune" may be a little different.
Fundamentals are fundamentals but different people teach them in slightly different ways.

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Other trainers....

Exactly. The best instructors out there are highly experienced individuals. Guys like Larry Vickers, Dave Harrington and Kyle Lamb come from SF backgrounds and train civilians as well as current LE & SF guys. The Rogers School, Gunsite, etc are also taught by been there, done that instructors. There are alot of "trainers" out there, so do your homework before attending a class.

 

[mtdawg169]

Most Gun owners would be better served buying a GOOD PAIR OF RUNNING SHOES and a BASIC FITNESS MANUAL before spending a dime on shooting instruction.

WHY......

1.) The majority of people are fat.
2.) Fitness is the first priority of any serious GUN fighter.
3.) You'll shoot better under stress, GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
4.) You'll fight better under stress and a load (gear), GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
5.) You'll feel better, even on your worst day.
6.) You'll have a better quality of life.
7.) THE BEST AND MOST DANGEROUS PREDATORS DO IT.
8.) IF YOU CARRY A GUN FOR DEFENSE/PROTECTION, IF YOU ARE FORCED TO FIGHT IT WILL BE AGAINST PREDATORS! If you don't think so, you will be better suited sticking to video games.

YOUR ABILITY TO FIGHT EFFICIENTLY IS DIRECTLY TIED TO YOUR HEART RATE. FIT PEOPLE START 35 TO 40 BEATS PER MINUTE (BPM) BELOW MANY AVERAGE AMERICANS. WHEN FIT FIGHTERS ARE AT 115 TO 145 BPS (OPTIMUM FIGHTING HEART RATE) AVERAGE AMERICANS ARE AT 175 TO 200 BPM.

A MODERATELY SKILLED (MINDSET, TACTICS, SKILLS) FIT FIGHTER WINS THAT BATTLE AGAINST A HIGHLY SKILLED (MINDSET, TACTICS, SKILLS) UNFIT FIGHTER EVERY TIME.

Great points.

 

[givejunkfree]

Most Gun owners would be better served buying a GOOD PAIR OF RUNNING SHOES and a BASIC FITNESS MANUAL before spending a dime on shooting instruction.

WHY......

1.) The majority of people are fat.
2.) Fitness is the first priority of any serious GUN fighter.
3.) You'll shoot better under stress, GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
4.) You'll fight better under stress and a load (gear), GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
5.) You'll feel better, even on your worst day.
6.) You'll have a better quality of life.
7.) THE BEST AND MOST DANGEROUS PREDATORS DO IT.
8.) IF YOU CARRY A GUN FOR DEFENSE/PROTECTION, IF YOU ARE FORCED TO FIGHT IT WILL BE AGAINST PREDATORS! If you don't think so, you will be better suited sticking to video games.

YOUR ABILITY TO FIGHT EFFICIENTLY IS DIRECTLY TIED TO YOUR HEART RATE. FIT PEOPLE START 35 TO 40 BEATS PER MINUTE (BPM) BELOW MANY AVERAGE AMERICANS. WHEN FIT FIGHTERS ARE AT 115 TO 145 BPS (OPTIMUM FIGHTING HEART RATE) AVERAGE AMERICANS ARE AT 175 TO 200 BPM.

A MODERATELY SKILLED (MINDSET, TACTICS, SKILLS) FIT FIGHTER WINS THAT BATTLE AGAINST A HIGHLY SKILLED (MINDSET, TACTICS, SKILLS) UNFIT FIGHTER EVERY TIME.

Old man shoots thugs in internet cafe.... remember that one? Having a weapon and knowing how to use it is twenty times more valuable than being able to run the mile in under 4.

 

[Bypass]

I say we mandate civics and constitutional law classes in order to get a voter registration card, maybe even throw in an $80 background check.

Agreed.

 

[GeauxLSU]

I say we mandate civics and constitutional law classes in order to get a voter registration card, maybe even throw in an $80 background check.

Well... that would certainly change the state of affairs in this country.

 

[GeauxLSU]

Most Gun owners would be better served buying a GOOD PAIR OF RUNNING SHOES and a BASIC FITNESS MANUAL before spending a dime on shooting instruction.

WHY......

1.) The majority of people are fat.
2.) Fitness is the first priority of any serious GUN fighter.
3.) You'll shoot better under stress, GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
4.) You'll fight better under stress and a load (gear), GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK!
5.) You'll feel better, even on your worst day.
6.) You'll have a better quality of life.
7.) THE BEST AND MOST DANGEROUS PREDATORS DO IT.
8.) IF YOU CARRY A GUN FOR DEFENSE/PROTECTION, IF YOU ARE FORCED TO FIGHT IT WILL BE AGAINST PREDATORS! If you don't think so, you will be better suited sticking to video games.

YOUR ABILITY TO FIGHT EFFICIENTLY IS DIRECTLY TIED TO YOUR HEART RATE. FIT PEOPLE START 35 TO 40 BEATS PER MINUTE (BPM) BELOW MANY AVERAGE AMERICANS. WHEN FIT FIGHTERS ARE AT 115 TO 145 BPS (OPTIMUM FIGHTING HEART RATE) AVERAGE AMERICANS ARE AT 175 TO 200 BPM.

A MODERATELY SKILLED (MINDSET, TACTICS, SKILLS) FIT FIGHTER WINS THAT BATTLE AGAINST A HIGHLY SKILLED (MINDSET, TACTICS, SKILLS) UNFIT FIGHTER EVERY TIME.

I watched the finals of "Top Shot" last night. I was thinking "this isn't a shooting competition, it's a physical fitness competition". It was both I suppose but the better (in this case younger) athlete won.

 

[CQB27]

Old man shoots thugs in internet cafe.... remember that one? Having a weapon and knowing how to use it is twenty times more valuable than being able to run the mile in under 4.

Only if the Man who can a mile under 4 minutes knows NOTHING about how to fight with a gun. You can down play, like most Americans, the reality of fitness and how it relates to fighting and winning. It doesn't change the fact that all serious fighters, and by serious I mean those who have a proven record of prevailing consistently in armed combat, spend some portion of almost every day doing physical training. Fighting effectively (whether it be with a pistol, rifle, knife, club) against a skilled opponent is physical.