I don't want to clutter up somebody's Buy/ Sell/ Trade thread any more than it already is,
so let me start this new thread here in the Law & Order section.
HYPOTHETICAL:
A rifle or carbine comes with a stock that is easily detached.
The gun will fire, and is operational, without the stock in place.
The rifle's barrel is 16" long or more, BUT...
but...
Without the stock on its back end, the weapon's OAL is short of the 26" overall length standard. Therefore, taking the stock off has had the legal effect of making an SBR, but not for the normal reason (too short barrel). Here, the barrel isn't the problem, it's the overall length.
The problem could be prevented by using a longer barrel OR attaching some sort of stock that extends the back end of the weapon a few more inches toward your torso as you hold it.
LINK TO STORY WHERE WOMAN WAS CHARGED FOR EXACTLY THIS OFFENSE:
https://www.guns.com/news/2017/09/12/california-woman-charged-with-illegal-sbr-over-stock-less-1022
She possessed the barreled action and trigger group (in place), of a Ruger 10/22. The barrel actually looks like a standard 18.5" model, not even the 16" or 16.5" models that are also on the market. But lacking any stock, the gun measures only 24" overall. Two inches short.
*EDITED TO ADD* But she didn't have a magazine in place. I assume the gun was unloaded, too, since the 2 news reports I read didn't say otherwise. If it were loaded, I'm sure they'd have said so.
AR-15 receivers with any sort of buffer tube will clearly exceed OAL with a 16 inch barrel, but that might not be for a rimfire or pistol caliber semi-auto. They have shorter actions (shorter receivers) that can trigger (no pun intended) this problem.
** EDITED TO ADD: I think that's why the Ruger Charger pistol stocks have that extra wood projecting to the rear. It serves no purpose but to artificially add to the OAL which would be a legal concern IF somebody put a 10/22 (rifle or carbine) barreled action in that pistol-grip-only stock. ***
so let me start this new thread here in the Law & Order section.
HYPOTHETICAL:
A rifle or carbine comes with a stock that is easily detached.
The gun will fire, and is operational, without the stock in place.
The rifle's barrel is 16" long or more, BUT...
but...
Without the stock on its back end, the weapon's OAL is short of the 26" overall length standard. Therefore, taking the stock off has had the legal effect of making an SBR, but not for the normal reason (too short barrel). Here, the barrel isn't the problem, it's the overall length.
The problem could be prevented by using a longer barrel OR attaching some sort of stock that extends the back end of the weapon a few more inches toward your torso as you hold it.
LINK TO STORY WHERE WOMAN WAS CHARGED FOR EXACTLY THIS OFFENSE:
https://www.guns.com/news/2017/09/12/california-woman-charged-with-illegal-sbr-over-stock-less-1022
She possessed the barreled action and trigger group (in place), of a Ruger 10/22. The barrel actually looks like a standard 18.5" model, not even the 16" or 16.5" models that are also on the market. But lacking any stock, the gun measures only 24" overall. Two inches short.
*EDITED TO ADD* But she didn't have a magazine in place. I assume the gun was unloaded, too, since the 2 news reports I read didn't say otherwise. If it were loaded, I'm sure they'd have said so.
AR-15 receivers with any sort of buffer tube will clearly exceed OAL with a 16 inch barrel, but that might not be for a rimfire or pistol caliber semi-auto. They have shorter actions (shorter receivers) that can trigger (no pun intended) this problem.
** EDITED TO ADD: I think that's why the Ruger Charger pistol stocks have that extra wood projecting to the rear. It serves no purpose but to artificially add to the OAL which would be a legal concern IF somebody put a 10/22 (rifle or carbine) barreled action in that pistol-grip-only stock. ***
