Openly Carrying A Rifle in GA

[FreedomUSMC]

Do you think it the least bit odd that the language you quote for the proposition that GA bans carrying a concealed weapon does not have the word "concealed" anywhere within it?

It says can't carry a pistol without a permit because it applies to bother open and concealed. That's pretty simple to comprehend.

Do you have a permit or do you carry without one?

 

[FreedomUSMC]

Most (but not all) of GA's laws on carrying firearms with or without a permit, and laws regarding off-limits locations, use a particular legal term called "weapon."
The definition of "weapon" (as applied to most code sections) is found in 16-11-125.1
Remember, there are some other Georgia laws in some other sections of the code where this "weapon" definition doesn't apply, or isn't relevant, but it applies to several important gun laws in Georgia.

The Shockwave is not a "weapon" under GA law.
The barrel is too long for it to be called a handgun, and handguns need to have rifled barrels anyway, not smoothbore barrels. A shockwave is not a cut down shotgun because it never was a shotgun! Shotguns have to be originally made to be fired from the shoulder, or they have to be modified and redesigned to be fired from the shoulder.
That doesn't fit the Shockwave, because it's never intended to be fired from the shoulder. But...

(if you add something that you call an "arm brace," but is clearly and obviously intended as a shoulder stock, you might be breaking Georgia law,
and the Georgia Attorney General's office and your local DAs office might not give any weight to ATF's opinion on the brace-versus-stock distinction).

Since the Shockwave is not a handgun and not a large bladed knife, it cannot be a "weapon" under Georgia law (16-11-125.1), so most laws 16-11-126 through 138) that criminalize the carrying of a "weapon" doesn't apply here. Any law that criminalizes the possession of a rifle or shotgun wouldn't apply because a Shockwave is neither of those things.
It uses shotgun shells, but it's not a shotgun.

It is, technically, unregulated by most of Georgia's gun control laws. The school safety zone law is a notable exception. So are some other laws regarding transportation terminals and infrastructure for mass transit.

Yet, as other posters above have said, you can't expect rank and file law-enforcement officers to know all this. If some cop thinks that it's a short barrel shotgun, or thinks that it's a shotgun caliber "handgun" that requires a GWL because the cop thinks it's a "weapon" you are very likely to be arrested.
You may beat the rap, but you may very well take that ride.

Thanks Sir. So I wonder what laws would apply given it's still a firearm.

https://www.mossberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Shockwave-Letter-from-ATF-3-2-17.pdf

Since it's not an AOW how can it be registered as one? And how can GA residents be in compliance when there's no AOW in GA? lol. More BASS ACKWARDS laws to screw with gun owners.

 

[FreedomUSMC]

AOW is a federal law. There is no state equivalent. So you would have to be arrested by a federal LEO.

A state or local LEO would probably charge you carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, because they are not familiar with AOW, If you have a permit you probably would not be charged with anything.

If you are charged with carrying without a permit, you can spend thousands of dollars hiring a lawyer to argue that a permit is not required to carry an AOW. Good luck finding a judge who will understand that. Besides which the judge may very well find that AOW is not defined under Ga. law, and you were carrying a sawed off shotgun. Georgia does not have to recognize federal definitions of firearms.

just me, maybe I'm chicken ****, but seems like a lot of risk and expense to prove a point, when there are good alternatives.

Precisely. No reason to test the waters for a crappy firearm. Everyone should have a CCW anyway.

 

[lokidogg]

Everyone should have a CCW anyway.

a gooberment permission slip my a**!

 

[FreedomUSMC]

a gooberment permission slip my a**!

lmfao. Rock on, Cowboy!

 

[lokidogg]

lmfao. Rock on, Cowboy!

Shhhhh I gots minze waaayy back.

 

[jeepnuts]

Well the gun community got what it wanted. Nearly everybody can legally own and carry an AR15. For a while they were cheaper than a Glock. Carry laws are also lax on rifles.

Wait a minute, now everybody has them. Oh man, now protestors carry them. People aren’t so comfortable seeing the protestors with them.

perfect storm for bans to brew

 

[mrauditor]

perfect storm for bans to brew

Possibly not. With BIPOC now flaunting them daily in the streets, sleepy Joe might have to think twice about offending such a large, boisterous voting block by taking away their security blanket. Thanks.

 

[John Monroe]

It says can't carry a pistol without a permit because it applies to bother open and concealed. That's pretty simple to comprehend.

Do you have a permit or do you carry without one?

You are changing the issue. We only have been discussing whether it is a crime to carry concealed in GA, not whether a permit is required just to carry at all.

But GA most definitely has a law against concealed carry outside of your property.

he literally posted the Ga law that prohibits concealed carry without a license, as I stated. Or did you not bother to read it?

No, Georgia most definitely does not have a law against concealed carry.

It had one for a long time, but it was repealed in 2010.

A "CCW" does not exist in GA. There is a weapons carry license, which is required to carry a weapon (i.e., knife or handgun), openly or concealed. But there is no crime against carrying a concealed weapon.

 

[FreedomUSMC]

You are changing the issue. We only have been discussing whether it is a crime to carry concealed in GA, not whether a permit is required just to carry at all.

You must have come in the convo late. The OP asked what if he concealed a Mossberg Shockwave. That was the basis for the convo. And as I said, doing so would be violating the law.

Even to your point, yes it’s illegal to carry any concealed firearm without a permit.