They are, no one has any consideration for another. Maybe they never did. I stay home most of the time anymore, not worth the aggravation. Most of the folks on here seem to be good people which is rare anymoreI took my crew to eat a at pizza place, two women around 50 years old sat down at the table next to us, called a third woman, and face-timed her throughout the entire meal...at concert volume! It was everything that I could do to maintain my chi. I've said it before and I'll say it again....people are the worst!