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Pine Log WMA IS Closed

I went there a few weeks ago and the road to the dove fields is closed. I would guess that the developers will try to buy that area since the roads are in good shape and they can utilize the dove fields for housing, they also have markers that seemed new along the road leading up to the fields. In my opinion that is complete bs but at the end of the day its all about the money. Pine log is the first wma I hunted on and its in a way special to me, its a shame that it will all eventually get developed.
 
I read an article about the proposed development of that land. I think it is 19,000 acres with a lot of different types of live/work/play plans. That is drastically going to change that area.

Think "Chicago South"

I live a few miles from there. My son just took an interest in trout fishing and Stamp Creek was going to be our spot to hit. Guess we can go back to running shine and making meth now.
 
We love capitalism until capitalists do what they do then we hate ‘em for it. We hate socialism until we need them to do what they do and then we practically beg them for it.

Ironic, isn’t it? 🤷‍♂️
I mean I get what you’re talking about, but it has been public for 46 years. This is not some strictly private property that none of us could be on in the first place. Who paid the property taxes on it for 46 years the public buying hunting and fishing license not the property owner. My thing with is from what it sounds like to me they weren’t even willing to work with the state. I will never understand why people side with them. If **** doesn’t start changing around here in just a short time none of us will have a place to hunt, hike, fish, or anything.
 
I mean I get what you’re talking about, but it has been public for 46 years. This is not some strictly private property that none of us could be on in the first place. Who paid the property taxes on it for 46 years the public buying hunting and fishing license not the property owner. My thing with is from what it sounds like to me they weren’t even willing to work with the state. I will never understand why people side with them. If **** doesn’t start changing around here in just a short time none of us will have a place to hunt, hike, fish, or anything.
It was leased to the public for 46 years by a family who owned it…why would the owner pay property taxes during that time when it’s being used for public use? The state pays them to lease it but I’m sure the family paid income tax on that money. If they sell it or keep it private, believe me, the state is going to get their share! If you owned land and the state was paying you $XX,XXX a year to lease it but some developer came and offered you $XX,XXX,XXX to sell it, you wouldn’t take the money for you and your kids? Please! Everyone loves altruism but few ever practice it themselves.

There’s plenty of land to hunt on, you just have to buy it like a good capitalist would. But…but if you do go buy that land with your hard earned money, are you going to share it with every Tom, Dick, or Harry for 46 years? I’d bet not.

(I’m not taking their side, I’m just playing “Devil’s Advocate”)
 
I’m just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Yeah there is plenty of places to hunt now, but before too long that way of thinking there will be no places. Your right if I bought property I wouldn’t let every Tom, Dick, or Harry hunt it, but I also wouldn’t lease it to the state for 46 years, waiting until I see ****ing dollar signs from some developers. Either way they are gonna do what they want and I can’t change that but I damn sure I ain’t gonna talk nice about them. I know how they got the land in the first place and they are trying to paint them selfs as these saints that only leased it to the state for the public and you would be a damn moron if you believed that.
Interesting piece of history of you'd care to share.......?

I have no axe to grind on either side of this subject, but I do enjoy getting out into natures wilderness from time to time. With all the crap that's going in in our country today, tranquility is becoming a rare commodity.
 
Unreal anyone would fault anyone else from legally maximizing the return on what they own. The definition of entitlement. :tsk: In 2018 Georgia voters overwhelmingly passed a long overdue amendment to create a permanent sourcing for the purchase and maintenance of public lands. (Gadnr.org/gosp) something too few states have. Lobby your state rep and senator to use those funds as efficiently as possible or for whatever your pet project is. (They have a grant application process.) There are thousands of acres of publicly owned lands in Georgia that you can't access because the infrastructure has never been built and/or not enough resources to staff it.
You'll be hard pressed to find a state with more (non BLM) public land available.
I agree that Georgia is getting ruined by over development. Just like every decent place to live in the country....
 
The broker, Jim Ramseur, who represents the Neel family is a straight shooter. He was quoted today in the Atlanta Business Chronicle:

“The delta is substantial,” said Ramseur, a partner at Lee & Associates. “We offered the state a $30 million reduction to bridge that delta, but they couldn’t get their arms around it. We had to provide a deadline because of the way the lease is structured.”

Losing Pine Mountain WMA is a great loss to Georgia. With the Hyundai/SK $5 Billion electric vehicle battery plant (3500 jobs) Bartow County is transitioning from rural county to a manufacturing one.
 
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