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Hmmmm... Ok well maybe what you need to do is set up a poll and see who else feels the same way that i do. Look in the threads there are tons of people that feel that the infractions that they get are less than fair. When someone comes on your page and posts some smart @$$ comment and you defend yourself and it results in an infraction that is b.s.!!! When someone posts 100 rounds of 223 ammo for $200 that deserves a smart @$$ comment. How can you say that you keep no track of the donations when the only reason that i am a supporter is because an odt member footed the money for me..... Didn't he have to go through you to do so? How else would you have known who's "odt account" to credit the money to? I thought so.... Like i said maybe you should start a poll..... You might just be suprised. Have you ever thought that maybe your mods have family members that are also odt members??? I'm just sayin that there is alot more talked about among members that have inside information then what you might think as well. I can also speak from personal experience. Until you start being able to recieve infractions for b.s. Then you really have no room to talk.
we show absolutely no favoritism towards supporters or non-supporters, and i keep no records as to who has donated what. If someone donates more than another person that's awesome, but it doesn't buy you any extra lee-way at all.

This is a free country, but this is not a free forum, we have rules.

Can you please name these "odt favorites" who get away with "murder?" can you also provide an example of forum "murder?"

i wasn't aware that anyone besides the mods could see all the infractions handed out, i guess you can see them as well? I'm guessing not, because if you could you'd see that what you are saying is absolutely false.
 
Ok but do you not agree that people do get infractions for things that they don't deserve to get infractions for?
i disagree bro... I got banned for a day on what i thought was a second point... My bad, that one cost two points (repeat offender and deserved).. So you get to 3 in a hurry, heh. Oh, and it depends on the mod, it's like getting pulled over for speeding, you might get a warning or a ticket... Cop's call but you are still speeding. So now, no matter how offensive the ad i try to be good ;) these days what bothered me is not so much the high prices (****, getting immune to that) but the attitude of some of the posters... Wow.
 
Ok but do you not agree that people do get infractions for things that they don't deserve to get infractions for?
Looks to me like he answered that already (you were still speeding) Seems the easiest way to avoid an infraction is to refrain from making comments on a sale thread. Just my two cents.
 
What do you do when someone insults or offends you? Speak up and get an infraction? Hell i just had a guy come on one of my posts and say that i lied to him and i have never even dealt with this person.... People have said more than a smart comment here and there about me typing in all caps.... Bypass was crucified for what he did and it was made everyone's business. People are still talking about it and he meant no harm he was trying to help someone else avoid a snake in the grass. So in a way you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. I speak my mind i am a man and i don't take s**t from anyone. Why should i have to wait on the internet police??? Someone comes in your home and violates your family or says some a$$hole comment to you out in public? Are you going to wait on the police to get there and rescue you??? Thought not!!! If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything.
looks to me like he answered that already (you were still speeding) seems the easiest way to avoid an infraction is to refrain from making comments on a sale thread. Just my two cents.
 
Hmmmm... Ok well maybe what you need to do is set up a poll and see who else feels the same way that i do. Look in the threads there are tons of people that feel that the infractions that they get are less than fair. When someone comes on your page and posts some smart @$$ comment and you defend yourself and it results in an infraction that is b.s.!!! When someone posts 100 rounds of 223 ammo for $200 that deserves a smart @$$ comment. How can you say that you keep no track of the donations when the only reason that i am a supporter is because an odt member footed the money for me..... Didn't he have to go through you to do so? How else would you have known who's "odt account" to credit the money to? I thought so.... Like i said maybe you should start a poll..... You might just be suprised. Have you ever thought that maybe your mods have family members that are also odt members??? I'm just sayin that there is alot more talked about among members that have inside information then what you might think as well. I can also speak from personal experience. Until you start being able to recieve infractions for b.s. Then you really have no room to talk.
Last I checked, there is only one person that creates site rules, and he expects his moderators to enforce them without favor to anyone. If you're experiencing any issues with the (free) service Okuma Steve is providing, do feel free to use the Private or Public Help Forums and/or Report Post feature, and someone will be along shortly to handle it.
 
Hmmmm... Ok well maybe what you need to do is set up a poll and see who else feels the same way that i do. Look in the threads there are tons of people that feel that the infractions that they get are less than fair. When someone comes on your page and posts some smart @$$ comment and you defend yourself and it results in an infraction that is b.s.!!! When someone posts 100 rounds of 223 ammo for $200 that deserves a smart @$$ comment. How can you say that you keep no track of the donations when the only reason that i am a supporter is because an odt member footed the money for me..... Didn't he have to go through you to do so? How else would you have known who's "odt account" to credit the money to? I thought so.... Like i said maybe you should start a poll..... You might just be suprised. Have you ever thought that maybe your mods have family members that are also odt members??? I'm just sayin that there is alot more talked about among members that have inside information then what you might think as well. I can also speak from personal experience. Until you start being able to recieve infractions for b.s. Then you really have no room to talk.

You are 100% correct.


Originally Posted by okuma steve
we show absolutely no favoritism towards supporters or non-supporters, and i keep no records as to who has donated what. If someone donates more than another person that's awesome, but it doesn't buy you any extra lee-way at all.

This is a free country, but this is not a free forum, we have rules.

Can you please name these "odt favorites" who get away with "murder?" can you also provide an example of forum "murder?"

i wasn't aware that anyone besides the mods could see all the infractions handed out, i guess you can see them as well? I'm guessing not, because if you could you'd see that what you are saying is absolutely false.

OBAMA Steve, you know this is bull****. Your buttboy captdave77 for example.
And to top it off you and your posse of ***** administrators are too cowardly to face the man that you accuse.
You and your mod are a bunch of lazy dickheads.
I guess me being offended when you put the "Dunce hat on my avatar was ok? Because I'm OBAMA Steve and I own this site. Well how about you stick it up your ass?

Now KMRD

This would lead you to being a lying sack of ****, due to the fact that you said that all infractions would be open for discussion.
I have yet had correspondence, but a heap of lookers.

Viva La Revolution
Snake Dr

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Last I checked, there is only one person that creates site rules, and he expects his moderators to enforce them without favor to anyone. If you're experiencing any issues with the (free) service Okuma Steve is providing, do feel free to use the Private or Public Help Forums and/or Report Post feature, and someone will be along shortly to handle it.

This is a bunch of bull**** and you know it.

Viva La Revolution
Snake Dr
 
Hmmmm... Ok well maybe what you need to do is set up a poll and see who else feels the same way that i do. Look in the threads there are tons of people that feel that the infractions that they get are less than fair. When someone comes on your page and posts some smart @$$ comment and you defend yourself and it results in an infraction that is b.s.!!! When someone posts 100 rounds of 223 ammo for $200 that deserves a smart @$$ comment. How can you say that you keep no track of the donations when the only reason that i am a supporter is because an odt member footed the money for me..... Didn't he have to go through you to do so? How else would you have known who's "odt account" to credit the money to? I thought so.... Like i said maybe you should start a poll..... You might just be suprised. Have you ever thought that maybe your mods have family members that are also odt members??? I'm just sayin that there is alot more talked about among members that have inside information then what you might think as well. I can also speak from personal experience. Until you start being able to recieve infractions for b.s. Then you really have no room to talk.

I see a few more accusations but no examples of an "odt favorite who gets away with murder."

I have no idea who donated to make you a supporter, and if you hadn't said so in here I would have just thought you did it yourself. The site keeps track of who is a supporter and when their subscription is up, but I keep no record of who has donated what, and I definitely don't have a list that I go check to see if I'm going to let someone get away with "murder."

If you feel like you got an infraction wrongly just post in the private help forum, it's that simple. Many infractions have been over turned due to being a mistake or other mods not agreeing with the reason for the infraction. If you have a negative comment in one of your threads just report it and a mod will clean it up, again, very simple.
 
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