I had to 'defend' my home.

[Bear44]

Next time either shoot bro in the nutz or something similar. Other than walking outside without knowing what/who was going on, sounds like you did ok.
I would think about the live fire training previously suggested, if you are really bothered about it.
And dont rely on wife to do ****....grab the phone yourself AFTER stuff settles if needed....or talk to her about helping you out when you ask.

No, he didn't do ok. He said the only reason he didn't fire through the window was because of his kids be present. If the kids were out of the room, he would have fired and spent some hard time for manslaughter if he had killed his brother.

 

[41mag]

No, he didn't do ok. He said the only reason he didn't fire through the window was because of his kids be present. If the kids were out of the room, he would have fired and spent some hard time for manslaughter if he had killed his brother.

True, i stand corrected

 

[Bear44]

It is so easy for someone to pass judgment on what should and what shouldn't have been done In the Heat of the Moment. There are people in this thread who are trained in combat scenarios, and like many people on here there are just Average Joe's trying to protect what is theirs.
This was definitely a lesson not only for you but for someone like myself.

Got some bad news for you. People passing judgment after the fact is exactly what the police, prosecutor, judge and jury do. If a person hasn't trained enough to make the right call in a high stress situation, that's on them and there will be consequences.

Hell, most people that own a gun for self defense haven't even made the effort to find out what the laws are about the legal use of deadly force and will then argue like hell to defend their wrong assumptions about it. That has nothing to do with stress and is, again, on them.

 

[lostchild]

Since wife didn't call police, I would suspect she was complicit with your brother in the fireworks debacle. She was aware of his plan and thought it would be cute to scare the shizz out of you. Certainly not gonna cop to it now.
But that's just me.

 

[Bear44]

As for what you should have done, it's simple.

Get the kids and retreat to a good defensible position with them and your wife. Call 911 and wait.

That is not only the best thing you could have done legally, it's also the best thing tactically.

 

[Necrosis]

I would have went ahead and shot your brother just for being a ****ing idiot.

/s

Right in the knee, what a dumbass...

 

[RiverBend]

Well, al righty then,
first I am glad no onw was hurt/shot when the ****e started,
secondly, I am so glad it wasn't my brother and at my house.

 

[41mag]

cmshoot your take?

 

[payneed]

This happened to me some weeks ago and I have been meaning to share it to be able to lend a thought process to those who take home defense seriously; as I was caught off guard by the experience. First a summary, then an evaluation.

I was asleep in bed with wife and at about 1 am I heard gunshots that sounded like they were coming from inside my home. I sprung up, and grabbed my piece from my nightstand. It was a DA/SA HK at the time and I remember that I cocked the hammer, finger off the trigger. First thing I did was yell at my wife to cal the police. Which she did not do; for reasons that are beyond me. I left my room and went across the hall to the boys room where it sounded like the gunfire was coming from. They were startling and beginning to hoop and holler. I could see a figure outside their window and the firing was definitely coming from outside their window. I drew on the the window and went to fire but I did not due to my children running to me. I shooed both boys back into my bedroom and shut the door. I ran to the front door (shooting was in front yard) and opened it, walked out front broad-side with a shooting stance and did an assessment. The front porch light was on and my whole body was outside the door frame. I noticed immediately that the gunshots were colored, and they were coming from the ground (My 3/4 O'clock). It was fireworks. When I saw that the "I'm being attacked" factor just instantly dropped. I remember I lost all my primal instincts and I felt like the hulk coming back down. I immediately heard someone yelling my name from the drive way (my 9 O'clock) My brother came home from the navy on a late flight and lit fireworks in my yard and was walking towards me laughing, saying chill out, calm down, etc. There was a serious family fight as the whole situation was incredibly immature, dangerous, and upsetting to neighbors and children. Wife was furious. This is typical s*** from my family and is to be expected; but that did cross the line

Looking back I like to analyze the things I did wrong.
-My wife did not dial the police, which I scolded her for afterwards.
-I should have spent more time securing my family, and hunkering down in my household.
-I should not have gone outside
-I did not have cover outside
-I should not have walked my whole body outside
-I did not physically hear my wife, children, or my brother calling my name due to sheer adrenaline/fear/whatever. If there were LE present I doubt I would have heard/obeyed orders. If someone came in the back door while I went out front I doubt I would have heard my family holler.

Feel free to enjoy the read, consider the circumstances, and critique the performance (or lack there of). Have a plan, make sure if you know you/loved ones are safe you make a conscious decision to engage/cover/whatever and plot your moves before moving.

Somebody has to ask... it might as well be me.
Were any dogs shot or killed or set on fire by fireworks in the making of this training video?
REALLY GLAD it all turned out OK!

 

[ReganR6]

This happened to me some weeks ago and I have been meaning to share it to be able to lend a thought process to those who take home defense seriously; as I was caught off guard by the experience. First a summary, then an evaluation.

I was asleep in bed with wife and at about 1 am I heard gunshots that sounded like they were coming from inside my home. I sprung up, and grabbed my piece from my nightstand. It was a DA/SA HK at the time and I remember that I cocked the hammer, finger off the trigger. First thing I did was yell at my wife to cal the police. Which she did not do; for reasons that are beyond me. I left my room and went across the hall to the boys room where it sounded like the gunfire was coming from. They were startling and beginning to hoop and holler. I could see a figure outside their window and the firing was definitely coming from outside their window. I drew on the the window and went to fire but I did not due to my children running to me. I shooed both boys back into my bedroom and shut the door. I ran to the front door (shooting was in front yard) and opened it, walked out front broad-side with a shooting stance and did an assessment. The front porch light was on and my whole body was outside the door frame. I noticed immediately that the gunshots were colored, and they were coming from the ground (My 3/4 O'clock). It was fireworks. When I saw that the "I'm being attacked" factor just instantly dropped. I remember I lost all my primal instincts and I felt like the hulk coming back down. I immediately heard someone yelling my name from the drive way (my 9 O'clock) My brother came home from the navy on a late flight and lit fireworks in my yard and was walking towards me laughing, saying chill out, calm down, etc. There was a serious family fight as the whole situation was incredibly immature, dangerous, and upsetting to neighbors and children. Wife was furious. This is typical s*** from my family and is to be expected; but that did cross the line

Looking back I like to analyze the things I did wrong.
-My wife did not dial the police, which I scolded her for afterwards.
-I should have spent more time securing my family, and hunkering down in my household.
-I should not have gone outside
-I did not have cover outside
-I should not have walked my whole body outside
-I did not physically hear my wife, children, or my brother calling my name due to sheer adrenaline/fear/whatever. If there were LE present I doubt I would have heard/obeyed orders. If someone came in the back door while I went out front I doubt I would have heard my family holler.

Feel free to enjoy the read, consider the circumstances, and critique the performance (or lack there of). Have a plan, make sure if you know you/loved ones are safe you make a conscious decision to engage/cover/whatever and plot your moves before moving.

How well does your brother know you? My brother and myself love some pranks ,but know that kind of **** is off limits. That **** could have went south real quick ,but glad you didn't shoot his ass through the window man!