___________ arrested for ___________ !!!!

[77REBELBOWTIE]

According to some of the Experts on here, there's no such thing as an Unlawful Arrest. If your told to do something by an "Officer of the Law" you have to comply or face arrest for Resisting or Failure to Comply. And it would seem to me that there in lies the Problem. Way to much Power Given to those who are supposed to Enforce the Law, makes them GOD's. If they say dance ya better get to Shuffling those Feet.!

True. Before I say anything let me clarify that I respect LEO's and appreciate the job they do. If you give someone with a big head, a gun and a badge, you will have nothing but problems. I have run into a few LEO's that were fresh from the academy and all they accomplished with their cockiness was their feelings got hurt. Talking down to people and being a pain in the a$$ is not how you gain respect. A lot of it can just be chalked up to not being mature enough or responsible enough for the job.

 

[Mr. T]

Yeah go ahead and resist.The police got sumpthin for your arse,I will promise you that.Had knots all over when I resisted at another point in my life.As you get older you will do a lot more listening and a lot less talking when the PO-leese are involved.

you can always tell those who've resisted in the Busted papers, them folks look tore up from the floor up!

 

[Bass Akwards]

Watch what you post on here, some people will use it against you later on here.

They call me "tater salad"

 

[loadnplenty]

According to some of the Experts on here, there's no such thing as an Unlawful Arrest. If your told to do something by an "Officer of the Law" you have to comply or face arrest for Resisting or Failure to Comply. And it would seem to me that there in lies the Problem. Way to much Power Given to those who are supposed to Enforce the Law, makes them GOD's. If they say dance ya better get to Shuffling those Feet.!

L.E.O. here, and yes there is something called an unlawfull arrest. But not going to say anymore than that.

 

[Zastava]

...

L.E.O. here, and yes there is something called an unlawfull arrest. But not going to say anymore than that.

 

[jcountry]

Arrests mean nothing. Convictions are something else altogether. You may get ARRESTED then released if there is nothing to the case, but if you fight the cop, you will get CONVICTED of assault or resisting arrest, or something else which you really don't want.

-It is MUCH better to go downtown and straighten things out, than to get tasered, get your ass kicked and become a convicted felon trying to win a pissing contest.

-The cops ALWAYS win. Don't ever forget that, and you will lead a happy and long life.

Example: (I actually worked with a guy who THREW his pistol at a sheriff's officer. This guy got pulled over, the officer asked if he had any firearms in his car, and this moron actually pulled out his pistol and THREW it out the window at the cop.) The sheriff called his buds and they all proceeded to have a world-class beat-down party on this guy. Who could blame them? What if that gun had gone off and hit someone?

(Don't put me on that jury. I would probably give that clown a second beat-down right there in court. Who the hell is stupid enough to actually throw a gun at a cop? Really?)

 

[Patronus]

Y'all resist all you want. If I'm in a situation with a LEO I will obey the officer even if I disagree. I will state my case but I will NOT disobey a man with a gun, tazer, pepper spray and an Asp. If I feel he is disregarding my rights I will obey and afterwards subpoena the dash cam for the law suit. The side of the road is NOT the place to get into a civil rights argument with a man whose job places him in the line of fire and forces him to have a confrontational mind-set just to get him through his day and see him safely home.


Common sense seems to be in short supply among those who think thier rights trump everything including reality. I support our rights but I support both law enforcement and the intelligent exercise of our rights. Not the arrogant, braggart beating his chest and trying to browbeat some cop who is simply trying to do the best he can for his community.

 

[loadnplenty]

..look at this **** here...serve and protect
.

I would go into to further detail but for the sake of people not going off the deep end, I am still not talking lol

 

[WMSproject]

Here are some perfect examples of rulings For your right to defend yourself against an arrest the you know is UNLAWFUL. Argue this...

“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.

As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)

 

[wozbean]

That ruling is nice but if you pull a gun on an officer I can guarantee it will not end well. Even if you you are in the right and do disable the "wrongful" arresting officer, you will NEVER make it to station.