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What do you think the real shtf will be.

My prediction is a simple one that I've observed brewing for the past three decades:

1) The left continues to feed the neocons with horror stories about "illegal immigration" as they like to call it

2) The government allows the people to fret over the little brown people working at MickeyDs while the real damage is being done by the far left, financially destroying America and making sure that everyone they possibly can is dependent upon a government check

3) The LEO community helps create the hysteria in border towns while the economists are saying that immigration is playing less and less a role in our financial situation

4) Places like Arizona let up on the carry laws, but with a sinister plan in mind. They have their "useful idiots" as the communists would have called them, making sure there is panic and hysteria 24 / 7 / 365

5) At some point, some individual or some group will declare a unilateral war against the Hispanics

6) A State of Emergency will be called; weapons will be subject to confiscation

7) The men and the technology that was assembled under the guise of protecting us from ourselves will be taken off the border and turned loose in warrant less search / seizure, weapons confiscation exercises

8) The economy will implode

9) While the Sarah Palin's and Glenn Becks are fretting over the little brown people, the Ultimate Police State will be mobilized against America

10) We wake up to find that a new form of government has been instituted to "make us safe" and we will be under the rule of a socialist / democracy owned and controlled by a few elite multi national corporations.

I think you're a little out there with the whole hispanic focus... It's an issue but its not a grand conspiracy... And illegal entry into the country is a crime. It's all under 8 USC.
 
Well, well.... I've been on the road working on this topic for the last couple of weeks and just saw that the "survival" idea made it. Now this is cool. I work for a company that is closely tied to FEMA, HomeLand, DOD, and all of the State EMA's so I guess I've got a little inside information of what our Uncle is getting ready for.

First off there will not be a second civil war because there was never a first civil war. That's just what the United States called it. In fact the United States won a war with the Confederate States and we all know that the winner writes the history books.

Please look up Civil War and see the definition before you argue this point.

There could be a civil war after anarchy. The first thing we as citizens should do is take a look a history. There are quite a few governments that have gone down this path before us. What has to happen to a free nation before a group of people can take over a government (oligarchy)?

The education system has to be corrupted and teach that everyone, no matter what the work ethic should have the same and never want for food, housing, ect...

The banking system has to be ran by the powers that want to take over.

The transportation system has to be controlled by the government, travel has to be monitored.

People have to be convinced that everything is for the best.

Health care has to be controlled by the government.

There has to be a total collapse of currency (anarchy).

These rules have been followed by many dictators over the history of the world and many are still in power now.

I know for a fact (I sell to them) that our government is getting ready for "civil unrest" on a big scale. There are FEMA "relief" (walked through them) storage facilities all over this country with military style supplies not just food, water, blankets, and cots.

I know that before any relief is given out in times of an "event", as FEMA calls it now, there is an SOP in place that calls for a "protective" unit to gain control if needed. These are private companies under contract (again, more of my customers) that not only have complete relief supplies but also have large security forces. These companies are conducting "urban pacification" training right now at our military posts and abroad.

I do have to say that a little over a year ago I would have been the first to tell ME that I was crazy if I heard myself talking about the things that I have seen or the training classes from FEMA that I've been to in the past year. So don't think I have a Tin hat, I got one for everyday. I figure if my Uncle is getting ready I should think about it.

This should get us started for now.

Could'nt agree more. Right on spot, and excellent post!
 
If they're in the country illegally, then they are illegal. Kind of hard to refute that fact. Their mere presence is a violation of our laws.

Here here!!! Thank you. I have alwasy wondered what was so hard to understand about ILLEGAL aliens. When they cross our borders without proper permission.....thats ILLEGAL. So everyone that crosses the border that way is already a criminal.....period!!
 
May be Mexico creating some problems. The father of a lady I work with went to see mother or father that's in bad health, bus he was on ambushed, he was shot and throat cut. My aunts husband is Hispanic also and he gets calls about what's going on. Alot of murder there and trying to get here. Cartel and mercenary group. May be indirect but problems between here there at this time could be disaster
 
I am with CCW all the way on this one....anarchy!! One way or another. I just pray that our guys in the military will not turn on civillians!!

I agree with TBurnham and CCW. I think anarchy would be the result of any type of large disaster, either natural or man-made. Just look at what happened at East Point yesterday, yes it could have been worse but it could have been better too.
 
I agree with TBurnham and CCW. I think anarchy would be the result of any type of large disaster, either natural or man-made. Just look at what happened at East Point yesterday, yes it could have been worse but it could have been better too.

yes, in some areas anarchy will happen, at least until they all shoot each other. Small communities will band together. Rural counties will come together probably under the sheriff and protect their own.

This is what is happening back in my home state - The sheriff is preparing to protect the people with a special posse...
http://www.bossiersheriff.com/public-view-news.cfm?id=781

Some think this is a bad idea, but actually knowing many of the people in his posse and having family there in bossier parish I can tell you this is the right move for him to make. We need to put ourselves as communities back in charge - we deserve self-determination. Not subjugation.
 
1. Hadji invasion

2. Riots when the Bozo in office doesn't get re-elected.


Whatever it is I hope it happens before I get too old to enjoy it and can't use my preps.
 
It doesnt matter how you look at ITor what IT will be. IT is not going to be a good thing. IT will mean the end of the United States as we know it. Once IT starts here it will not take long for some of our enimies to feel now is the time to hit the US. This will just compound IT!
SIMPLY PUT.......ANARCHY!!!!!
We the People will be what stops IT. It will not be the police, it will not be the military, they all have families they will be worried about. It will be us that stops IT!
The real question will be, will enough of us put our differences aside and stand side by side to defeat IT??
 
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