AR pistols illegal.

[TresMonos]

Well....they may go at it VIA the Interpretive Change Restrictions....might try to do an end run around the "imported" part.....

Under ATF’s new interpretation of the handgun definition, millions of AR-15 style pistols could be considered “too large, or too heavy” to fall within ATF’s new interpretation, thereby making them unregistered NFA weapons, and subjecting manufacturers and gun owners to criminal prosecution.

https://comms.wiley.law/8/3583/octo...orts-and-may-require-nfa-registration(2).asp?

In some of the new letters, ATF has begun listing the following “objective design features” when making its evaluations:

• Incorporation of rifle sights;
• Utilization of "rifle caliber ammunition" (both 5.56mm and 7.62mm have been considered as such);
• Incorporation of “rifle-length barrel;”1
• The “weapon’s heavy weight;”
• Ability to accept magazines that range in capacity from 20 rounds to 100 rounds, “which will contribute to the overall weight of the firearm”; and
• Overall length of the weapon which “creates a front-heavy imbalance when held in one hand.”

~and~

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has recently changed the manner in which it interprets the statutory and regulatory definition of “handgun,” thereby further limiting the types of firearms eligible for importation. These determinations are not public, so it is difficult for the regulated community to assess and track shifting agency positions.

The Gun Control Act at 18 U.S.C. § 922(l) broadly prohibits the importation of all firearms into the United States. However, so long as a firearm is not military surplus nor subject to the National Firearms Act, section 925(d)(3) provides a limited exception for those firearms considered by ATF to be “generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes." Over the past half century, ATF has issued several studies and criteria on how it evaluates whether shotguns, rifles, or handguns qualify as “sporting” under the law. The handgun factoring test is the most straightforward of these, with a point tally system that rewards larger and bulkier handguns. If a handgun receives 75 or more points, it is considered “sporting” and approved for importation. However, there is no ATF-issued “sporting purpose” test for a firearm that fails to fit within the definition of handgun, rifle, or shotgun. Accordingly, ATF has long held that such a firearm is not importable.


Despite ATF previously stating that there is no limit to how long or heavy a handgun should be to qualify as “sporting” under section 925(d)(3), ATF private classification letters issued within the past few months indicate that the agency has shifted course by reinterpreting what constitutes a “handgun.” In company-specific letters, ATF takes the position that if a submitted firearm is too long or too heavy, it fails to meet the definition of “handgun” under the Gun Control Act, as it is not “designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand.” The Firearms and Ammunition Technology Division (FATD) of ATF—which conducts importability evaluations—says that it is taking a subjective approach to the statute by allowing individual examiners to determine if he or she can fire the weapon with one hand without difficulty.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.....but FOR NOW.....no, not illegal and no NFA stamp required.

 

[Shotgun Surgery]

Wait ‘til January 21, 2021.

That date doesn't matter as Joe Biden will never be president. He's not president elect right now, and all of the voter fraud suggesting he might be is being overturned in court as we speak.

 

[Madrox]

If braces become illegal, may as well run a ****ing stock at that point. **** it.

 

[Jblue]

Coat hanger; 7in bbl; birdcage break; collapsible stock.
SHTF kit

 

[Piglatinhater]

Dang, we get to hear all the LGS rumors that we dealt with Obama for another 4 years.

 

[Zach H. 82nd]

What’s an ar pistol

Any AR with a barrel length under 16” (including flash hider or muzzle break only if permanently secured). Also, buttstocks are illegal on pistols so a “brace” is used in place.

 

[Control for Smilers]

Any AR with a barrel length under 16” (including flash hider or muzzle break only if permanently secured). Also, buttstocks are illegal on pistols so a “brace” is used in place.

lol

 

[Kahrnut]

Any AR with a barrel length under 16” (including flash hider or muzzle break only if permanently secured). Also, buttstocks are illegal on pistols so a “brace” is used in place.

 

[Zach H. 82nd]

lol

What was wrong about it? I thought that was the difference.

 

[TresMonos]

What was wrong about it? I thought that was the difference.

@lokidogg asked a sarcastic question......if ANYONE knows what an AR pistol is, it's him (and me and just about all of the rest of the ODT membership).