Up for review is an Advantage Arms Glock LE 17/22 .22 LR drop unit. These units allow one to swap the upper receiver on a small frame/full size Glock and shoot inexpensive .22 LR. The unit I have is dimensional correct to the Glock upper and you can even swap the sights out for standard Glock sights or those that you have on your G17/22 carry weapon. With the upper attached any holster that accepts a G17/22 will work with this kit. Link: http://www.advantagearms.com/
This example has an aluminum slide with steel where it needs to be at. It’s much lighter than a G17/22 but the sight image is basically the same. This design allows the slide to lock back after the last round. It allows you to train with inexpensive ammo and work on developing your pistol craft skill set. It does not however duplicate the recoil of a 9mm or .40 S&W. With your G17/22 lower you work/train with the same trigger, magazine button, slide release switch and employ the same immediate action in the event of failure, more on that soon.
It comes in a nice hard case with a 10 round magazine, cleaning kit, CLP, easy loader tool and the cost is around $300.
Why only 10 stinking rounds? Here is a modification of the 10 round magazine for an increased 15 round capacity magazine. The detailed link: https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/t...ine-10-rd-advantage-arms.454026/#post-2458643
I know you can buy a whole .22 pistol for that but not one that so closely mirrors the G17/22. Tactical solutions also makes a .22 LR kit that the locks the slide to the rear and is priced to compete with the Advantage Arms and it comes with a 15 round magazine. I think the slide is steel and the recoil is reduced more so than the AA unit. AA magazines can fairly easily be modified to accept 13-15 rounds. Ciener makes a .22 LR drop in kit and it does not lock the slide.
The AA unit has a reputation of being a finicky feeder and AA recommends solid 40 grain Remington Golden Bullets or CCI Mini Mags. It states to avoid Federal bulk packs. I tried/tested several types of ammo and indeed the Remington and CCI functioned best but after a couple of hundred rounds it started jamming even with recommended ammo. The most commonly encountered jam was empty fired case fully in the chamber and the next round jammed into the feeding ramp.
A web search on Glock Talk identified the issues: (1). the right side magazine lip caught the empty as it was attempting to eject. (2). The extractor was a bit beefy and when slide forward in battery the extractor came up a bit and wasn’t gripping the rim as best as it could. A bit of filing and fitting corrected these issues and now it will feed even HP federal bulk ammo reliably. Link: http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1009833&page=3
I could live with it as it was but the corrective action didn’t cost anything and makes ammo choice much easier. I really love this kit as does my son who also trains with it. It’s a good starting point when training folks who never fired a gun before and allows them to become familiar with the required steps to engage it on target. The switch to 9mm is an easy transition for the new shooter. It is really more accurate than the 9mm or I just seem to shoot it better. AA will thread a barrel for you too if you want to use a suppressor. All in all it is a really nice kit that allows you even more trigger time and that is always a good thing.
This example has an aluminum slide with steel where it needs to be at. It’s much lighter than a G17/22 but the sight image is basically the same. This design allows the slide to lock back after the last round. It allows you to train with inexpensive ammo and work on developing your pistol craft skill set. It does not however duplicate the recoil of a 9mm or .40 S&W. With your G17/22 lower you work/train with the same trigger, magazine button, slide release switch and employ the same immediate action in the event of failure, more on that soon.
It comes in a nice hard case with a 10 round magazine, cleaning kit, CLP, easy loader tool and the cost is around $300.
Why only 10 stinking rounds? Here is a modification of the 10 round magazine for an increased 15 round capacity magazine. The detailed link: https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/t...ine-10-rd-advantage-arms.454026/#post-2458643
I know you can buy a whole .22 pistol for that but not one that so closely mirrors the G17/22. Tactical solutions also makes a .22 LR kit that the locks the slide to the rear and is priced to compete with the Advantage Arms and it comes with a 15 round magazine. I think the slide is steel and the recoil is reduced more so than the AA unit. AA magazines can fairly easily be modified to accept 13-15 rounds. Ciener makes a .22 LR drop in kit and it does not lock the slide.
The AA unit has a reputation of being a finicky feeder and AA recommends solid 40 grain Remington Golden Bullets or CCI Mini Mags. It states to avoid Federal bulk packs. I tried/tested several types of ammo and indeed the Remington and CCI functioned best but after a couple of hundred rounds it started jamming even with recommended ammo. The most commonly encountered jam was empty fired case fully in the chamber and the next round jammed into the feeding ramp.
A web search on Glock Talk identified the issues: (1). the right side magazine lip caught the empty as it was attempting to eject. (2). The extractor was a bit beefy and when slide forward in battery the extractor came up a bit and wasn’t gripping the rim as best as it could. A bit of filing and fitting corrected these issues and now it will feed even HP federal bulk ammo reliably. Link: http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1009833&page=3
I could live with it as it was but the corrective action didn’t cost anything and makes ammo choice much easier. I really love this kit as does my son who also trains with it. It’s a good starting point when training folks who never fired a gun before and allows them to become familiar with the required steps to engage it on target. The switch to 9mm is an easy transition for the new shooter. It is really more accurate than the 9mm or I just seem to shoot it better. AA will thread a barrel for you too if you want to use a suppressor. All in all it is a really nice kit that allows you even more trigger time and that is always a good thing.
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