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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    All I said about air marshals is that I've heard that some have used witness-protection style shotguns before. Hypothetically, if a compact shotgun could be aimed as quickly and accurately as a stocked shotgun then it would be just as effective in terms of close quarters combat. Traditionally...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    So you think that a PGO shotgun will break wrists? You do know that PGO shotguns have been sold for decades, right? They have the reputation of being uncomfortable to shoot, but not to literally break wrists. Also, most people who shoot PGO shotguns are doing so with poor technique to say the...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    For an autoloading gun, regaining the sight picture quickly inbetween shots would certainly be an issue. However, this is a pump gun. After each shot I'm going to have to pump the gun anyways which will itself disturb the sight picture. I think the technique would be push and shoot then pump...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    Yep. That's where I got the idea for this. I've heard on the MP5 sling techniques they typically use a bungie style sling. The stretchiness probably helps for full-auto fire. I think in my situation I'd be better off with a sling that has no stretch so I can put significantly more forward force...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    That's certainly a possibility, and as far as the sling goes I don't think I'll have much of any idea of what works and what doesn't until I have the gun in my hands to try it out. The Hogue grip offers 2 options for slings, and what you've mentioned is a third that I can now also consider...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    I'd hold this shotgun to much lower standards of accuracy than a rifle, given the intended use. If I could consistently hit a torso sized target at 10-20 yards then I'd be happy with the performance. Honestly, there's no reason not to expect that; the real issue is whether or not the technique...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    If the shooting technique I'm imagining works out then it would be close to as shootable, if not as shootable, as a stocked shotgun. That would make it as effective as a typical shotgun in close range except smaller and handier, so it would be nice to have for any defensive situation in which...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    Before anything else, thanks for all of the info and taking the time to type all of that up. I really do appreciate it. That being said, I can't help but continue talking shotguns with you :) "Well remember the application to make an AOW is $200 same as SBS but then you can never put a stock on...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    That would be cheaper, but it would also be ~6" longer than the AOW suggestion. That would likely make a very big difference in how compact it is, whether or not it could be concealed, and just how overall handy it would be. Also, thanks for the offer to shoot your shotgun. That being said, I...
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    Some do call me "Shotgun Surgery".
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    Yep. That's basically what I want to go for, but the only company I can find currently making anything close to that is Paladin something or other that only takes payment by check or money order. This would be the Serbu Shorty we have at home.
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    My dumb idea that involves a 12 gauge

    Take one of these Add a $200 tax stamp to make it an AOW. Then add one of these Chop the bit of barrel down that extends past the magazine tube, clean it up, dab a little cold blue on it, then move that bead back onto the barrel. Then add a sling of some kind that attaches to the bottom of...

  13. Has anyone had a good look at a post Freedom Group Remington 870?

    Thanks for the info

  14. Has anyone had a good look at a post Freedom Group Remington 870?

    Does anyone here have some experience, or knows someone who does, with the post Freedom Group 870 shotguns? If so, how are they? Any issues with rusting, sticky chambers, etc?

  15. Looking to get a price check for a PGO 870 (pre-freedom group)

    To be clear, I don't have one. I specifically mean a PGO as in from-the-factory PGO (pistol grip only, IE never had a stock put on it and sold as a "firearm" rather than a shotgun). I'm also referring to older 870s (pre-freedom group) rather than the new stuff that's put out right now. What...
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    Upcoming Ammo Shortage

    That guy who runs that youtube channel is known to start pointless drama for views, so him fearmongering to get those youtube views doesn't surprise me. There will always be a cycle of shortages and then no shortages going back and forth, but as far as "It's just around the corner, click on this...

  17. tips for inspecting a 1911?

    I watched the video from that link you posted and learned a lot, thanks.

  18. tips for inspecting a 1911?

    I have a bad case of 1911 fever. I've taken a liking to those new Springfield Garrison 1911s, so I went to a local store to check one out and it wasn't until I had it in my hand that I realized I don't really know what to look for. What should I be looking for when inspecting a 1911? As one...

  19. IF YOU HAD TO HAVE ONLY ONE FIREARM.

    For SHTF? An AR15. Non-SHTF? A long gun at home wont help you stop a mugger, so some kind of pistol. I'd probably keep my Beretta 92, as I have ways of concealing it under a t-shirt anyways so why not.

  20. Info on Turkish AR 12 shotguns?

    I've heard that the plastic hulls of most shotgun shells are designed with tubular magazines in mind, specifically they're designed to take force end to end and not side to side as is the case with most detachable magazines. Therefore, I've heard that any shotgun with detachable magazines that...
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