I wasnt going to that show anyway,so I dont give a damn,seems promoter making it up as he goes.what happened to the 30 days before it goes into effect? some more blather?
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ODT Gun Show this Saturday! - Click here for info and tickets!
yet another one
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It dont matter if the atf shows up or watches you do it as long as you do it correctly so they can pound sand as I walk out do the deal and walk my happy ask right back in
I don't do any social media bull crap so I am not hip to all the acronyms or synonyms that are used to shorten the sentences. With that said this one is funny!!!
. Sorry for that my ignorance in that area but that just hit the funny bone there for a second. The " Here it comes again " did it. Unfortunately I think we're going to hear a lot of that in the near future. 
"If you have a collection and decide to liquidate it, you are not affected. If you buy a gun and decide you don't like it and sell it, you are not affected."
Is it not probable with the clarity of this new rule that the ATF could bend it to their will and use information gathered from a site like this to build a case? If you buy a gun and don't like it and you paid $350 and its listed here for $400 and some shmuck buys it, you have broken the rules. If you do that once a month and every time there is an electronic example for a year that's 12 offenses. Same logic applies to collections liquidated, if its 30 firearms over the course of a year, you might get a knock at the door. Also, if you bought a Ruger 77 in the 90's for say $700 and you sell it for $ 1300 because collector value went up is that not profit?
You are correct the rule is just verbiage explaining an already existing law, its not new. Maybe I am just another conspiracy theorist but the rule was published for a reason, and I believe that reason is to further track the activity and private sales on sites like this and to build cases, and play the long game, hope I am wrong.
well said.. the rule restates the law in a way that gives more range of assumption. if i am he ATF and i assume you broke the rule that re enforces a the law...the burden of proof is on you.. you will need to 1 bail/bond out of jail. 2 spend a erroneous amount of money on your defense, 3 if you can afford to prove you are innocent. you will need to fight to get all of your other property back.. then you get to try and pick up your life with no compensation...
lost your job.. tough rocks
lost your home... oh well
lost your retirement.. wal mart is hiring greeters.
this "rule" was put in to give the ability to the government to harass and bankrupt anyone who dares to own a gun......
Exactly, and for that reason and even though I have broken no law and don't intend to, I will no longer sell anything privately and I am leaning towards no trades across the internet as well.
Can you add a link to your source?
I just checked out the RK page for the May 18th show and it didn't say anything about no private sales...
Atlanta Expo, Atlanta, GA - Gun Show - R.K. Shows
If you are a gun collector/hunting enthusiast, the gun show at Atlanta Expo Center in Atlanta, GA is a great place to spend some time.
rkshows.com
Also, with the assumption that I am not the only person on here that feels this way, listings will become less and less and eventually the ODT will become more of what it already is in a sense, a social media site with gun listings from ffl dealers.
I have only made a profit on one gun I've ever sold out of 20 to 30 guns over the course of 20 or more years. It was a Beretta silver pigeon over and under shotgun that I picked up at Riverbend Gun club for 800 bucks. When I saw it I gave the guy $100 bill and told him I'd be right back cuz I had to go to the ATM machine. I returned and picked the shotgun up. Like the dumbass I am typically, I sold the gun on GunBroker for like 1250 or 1300 bucks. I made a killing off the shotgun but I could kick myself in the teeth for selling it.
If I had every gun that I've ever owned in my safe I would have to buy three more safes at $1,000 or more a safe and I would never need to buy another gun. I would have 10 1911s, one of each kind of shotgun made, collectible 22 long rifles, five to six Marlin JM stamped rifles and pistols of various sorts by the loads. And I lost my ass on every rifle I sold! Completely brilliant!
If I had every gun that I've ever owned in my safe I would have to buy three more safes at $1,000 or more a safe and I would never need to buy another gun. I would have 10 1911s, one of each kind of shotgun made, collectible 22 long rifles, five to six Marlin JM stamped rifles and pistols of various sorts by the loads. And I lost my ass on every rifle I sold! Completely brilliant!
$18.50 admission That seals it for me. I wouldnt pay that to watch an ant eat a bale of hay
