Need opinions of my ODT family on what to do

[coolformula]

It’s his firearm now not yours he should be able to do the research to find the good smith not you.

Also sounds like he might be newer to revolvers, who know what happened to it after it left you. I think their is a very good possibility of user error and his “friends” looking at it.

Your feedback speaks for itself, you have tried to do the correct things by offering more than you should to assist.

If they do take you up on the inspection I would call and talk to the gunsmith to verify the story and then lay the inspection fee if you feel like you. Need too.

Most collectors are not going to shot it that much, was he using his “uncles” reloads? Who knows what happened.

Let the offer stand and know you did the best you could to help. I wouldn’t keep dwelling on it.

 

[CTS Tactical]

I had a new ODT member ask if I would PLEASE sell him one my Colts from my private collection. I had a 1977 Colt Cobra .38 that was LNIB. The previous seller said in his communications "Shot once. Clean as a whistle. No flaws. Cycles and shoots perfectly." I bought it 5 years ago, never loaded or fired the gun, and put in storage until pulled out to show this Buyer. We met where he looked it over and he purchased the gun after I told him I had never so much as put a bullet in it. Days later, he said he shot 100 rounds through the Cobra at the range and occasionally the revolver would "lock up". He said he couldn't pull the hammer back until he "wiggled it a little" and then he could cock the gun and fire. He showed in a video, he fired through 6 rounds without issue, each time pulling the hammer back and pulling the trigger to fire it. On the 7th try, the hammer barely pulled back and he had put pressure on it to get it to release. Then he may fire 3-6 rounds and it happens again. Multiple people on the COLT forum said it could be old factory lube that dried up or be so dry with 25 years of sitting, a part could have slight rust and needs to be cleaned and lubed. 95% of Colt members said to clean the ejector star and underneath it to be sure it seats properly but this fellow hasn't tried either. HERE'S MY DILEMMA AND NEED ALL OF YOUR OPINIONS:

I never would intentionally do anyone wrong. I never even dry fired it to avoid turn lines and keep it looking new so of course I had no idea there could be an issue. I'm not even sure there was a problem when I sold it since I have no idea what happened from the time it left my possession. He wants to return the gun to get all of his money back or "trade it" for a full value credit towards another nice gun in my collection. This worries me after he has been messing with it and firing it for days. I didn't offer a warranty or guarantee and feel like he should have asked me when he said round 7 locked up and before taking it to the range shooting it all day and letting so many people mess with it. He said he also had multiple people look it over and try it and it happened to them but now I have no idea who all has handled it or would could have happened to my gun. I offered him to to take it to a gunsmith I met in Griffin GA but he doesn't want to drive that far from Douglasville! I said I would pay the initial inspection fee and split the repair costs up to $200 which I thought was beyond fair but he said it's too much trouble. WHAT WOULD YOU DO???

Your offer was more than fair. As you said, you sold "it as" is, no warranty. You don't owe him anything but good of you to try and help him out.

 

[palmettomoon]

I had a new ODT member ask if I would PLEASE sell him one my Colts from my private collection. I had a 1977 Colt Cobra .38 that was LNIB. The previous seller said in his communications "Shot once. Clean as a whistle. No flaws. Cycles and shoots perfectly." I bought it 5 years ago, never loaded or fired the gun, and put in storage until pulled out to show this Buyer. We met where he looked it over and he purchased the gun after I told him I had never so much as put a bullet in it. Days later, he said he shot 100 rounds through the Cobra at the range and occasionally the revolver would "lock up". He said he couldn't pull the hammer back until he "wiggled it a little" and then he could cock the gun and fire. He showed in a video, he fired through 6 rounds without issue, each time pulling the hammer back and pulling the trigger to fire it. On the 7th try, the hammer barely pulled back and he had put pressure on it to get it to release. Then he may fire 3-6 rounds and it happens again. Multiple people on the COLT forum said it could be old factory lube that dried up or be so dry with 25 years of sitting, a part could have slight rust and needs to be cleaned and lubed. 95% of Colt members said to clean the ejector star and underneath it to be sure it seats properly but this fellow hasn't tried either. HERE'S MY DILEMMA AND NEED ALL OF YOUR OPINIONS:

I never would intentionally do anyone wrong. I never even dry fired it to avoid turn lines and keep it looking new so of course I had no idea there could be an issue. I'm not even sure there was a problem when I sold it since I have no idea what happened from the time it left my possession. He wants to return the gun to get all of his money back or "trade it" for a full value credit towards another nice gun in my collection. This worries me after he has been messing with it and firing it for days. I didn't offer a warranty or guarantee and feel like he should have asked me when he said round 7 locked up and before taking it to the range shooting it all day and letting so many people mess with it. He said he also had multiple people look it over and try it and it happened to them but now I have no idea who all has handled it or would could have happened to my gun. I offered him to to take it to a gunsmith I met in Griffin GA but he doesn't want to drive that far from Douglasville! I said I would pay the initial inspection fee and split the repair costs up to $200 which I thought was beyond fair but he said it's too much trouble. WHAT WOULD YOU DO???

You've done as much as could be expected if not more.

 

[KrisD]

You dont owe him, You did more than most. I think he just doesn't like the gun and found the minor issue and wants to try to bully you into something different.

 

[TommyT]

Your offer was more than fair. As you said, you sold "it as" is, no warranty. You don't owe him anything but good of you to try and help him out.

Thank you. I would never want to do anyone wrong and would have felt better if he called me with the problem when he got home instead of after all the shooting and handling by multiple people.

 

[fattboyzz]

Tommy quick doing this! You offered to help,,,Let it go.....Just my humble opinion.

Just the plain honest truth.

 

[palmettomoon]

Thank you. I would never want to do anyone wrong and would have felt better if he called me with the problem when he got home instead of after all the shooting and handling by multiple people.

It's his. You are a private seller and made no warranty. It's not as if he's even entitled to an implied warranty of mercantibilty.

Anytime I buy a used gun I assume there might be something I must fix/clean/repair or replace. It's the nature of the game. Almost all issues will have a solution.

Hell, I've had to make parts for guns I bought. It's kind of fun to see what you can do when you plan it out and make it work. I once made a front sight out of bar stock for an old Lebel rifle. The C&R who bought it couldn't believe it was newly made and fit with hand tools. I was happy he couldn"t tell the difference between mine and an original. Satisfaction for putting the old war horse back into operation..

 

[Truck123]

If the buyer would have contacted you the next day with said problem, I could understand wanting to help him out. He has had the gun multiple days and fired numerous rounds thru it while letting other people mess with it. I wouldn't take it back or pay for any repairs, that's just my opinion.

 

[BIKER13]

Pics of the new owners turn line would be great.

 

[THREEJAYS]

You’ve been more than fair