10mm opinions and reviews...

[tstover]

Curious as to who the "they" is that teaches Mozambique for 9mm and not for 10mm.

The big reality check that you should walk away with is that there is no "devastating " handgun cartridge that one would ever realistically carry for SD.

I would add that a short barrel hurts the 10mm ballistics for carry so why not a 40, you could buy a 9x25 6" barrel and the velocity/ weight suggests you could hunt with it so it means trauma but then you're not shootinga 10mm.

 

[gh1950]

. The further truth is that the majority of 10mm that people shoot is just 40+p and not loaded to 10mm potential.

That's the real problem.

Properly loaded 10mm rounds enter the range of hydrostatic shock. It's amazing how many of the 10mm commercial loads are ballistic duplicates of .40, no +P involved.

 

[hozjo]

I prefer to keep/stock only a handful of calibers and while the 10mm is definitely a neat cartridge and likely has the best potential between a full size pistol/pistol caliber carbine I wouldnt personally carry it, or even reach for one in a home invasion type situation where I think concealibility, capacity, and recoil are more important.

.22 for plinking/target/varmint (assorted), dont really count this just because it's (historically) so damned cheap to have 10k rounds laying around

9mm for ccw (g43), car/home/other defense (g19) and kind of a "fun" gun but still could be useful for home defense, small game, or shtf situations etc (vector). Also historically cheap enough, to shoot a lot, and I still think the most important thing about owning a gun, is actually shooting it. And they got all sorts of 9mm loads/bullets these days that give you very good performance compared to the 115 grain target (but again if you are gonna carry a self defense load, you better shoot a box of it after you've gone thru your target ammo every time you go to the range too).

.38spc/.357mag works still for carry or other situations you might prefer a revolver (telling banditos they've yee'd their last haw), and in addition to revolvers got a coonan 357 which is another kinda fun gun but if I was hiking in the rockies it's what I'd carry with some hot .357mags, also a lever action rifle that with the right loads you're getting 30-30 performance out to 100 yards which would get you most deer out here. Also get to shoot these guns with .38 special on the cheap(ish).

.223/5.56 There's a reason this round is so popular and can be effective in short AR pistols, full sized AR's, and even some precision bolt rifles. It's also usually cheap to shoot.

30-06, I know .308's the rage these days but I inherited this rifle, it's got history, and if I needed to hunt it's what I'd use.

12 gauge: I mean there's a reason why it's the most popular shotgun, and with so many different loadings you got lots of versatility.

Arguably one could replace both the 9 and the 357 with 10mm, and I kinda toyed with the idea but I wouldn't want to carry a smallish framed 10mm (i got feminine wrists ok, its not my fault) and they dont make them as small as they do 9's, also I like lever guns and revolvers so just replacing 38/357 with 10mm wouldnt really make much sense to me. If I lived in Alaska I'd probably consider swapping the 357s for 44mag

 

[greg vess]

10mm vs. 9mm energy in ft. lbs.

 

[Tracer847]

Okee

Lol. I never rated my 10mm as special. MINE are not overrated. If others are overrating it, that’s an error on their part and not mine for liking the cartridge for what it is. If others are over rating it, I don’t feel a need to run away from it.
What it is is a much more powerful chambering for mass production semi autos. It will never be a .41 magnum despite the ramblings that I read about. I like it. I think it’s a very accurate round..out of my gun anyway.

 

[Tracer847]

On a serious note, I think the 10's biggest short coming is it does not do enough different from the plethora or other cartridges available on the market to be worth the investment for most.
Example:
1: 9mm has more rounds and less recoil.
2: 40s&w has same projectiles, same capacity, similar velocity in most commercial loadings, much cheaper options on average.
3: 45 acp is bigger, softer shooting and much more availability in every category.
4: 357 mag compares almost exactly in performance until you get to the ragged edge and the Mag pulls ahead hard. 10 does have more capacity, Mag has better sectional density for penetration.
5: 41 mag, 44 mag, the 10 has more capacity......about the only thing that is even fair to compare.
6: 45 Colt is an intentionally under loaded round in most cases just like the 10, 10 has more capacity, when loaded to modern pressure levels the 45 Colt is a serious contender for the 44 mag.

I could go on and on with this list, but in reality makes no sense because just like the people that love the 45 Schofield over a 45 acp, it is just their personal tastes. I for example love my 45 Colt 1894 and can build rip snorting loads that make it unpleasant to shoot and by the numbers out paces my 44 mag, but I would reccomend the 44 over it because the availability of safe guns to hold that power is plentiful.

In closing, I personally think a 10 is a waste of extra gun powder in anything short of long barreled pistols and full power loads. YMMV.

Regarding point number 5, you think capacity and not weight of an EDC is the only thing fair to compare?

 

[Tracer847]

I feel ya dude, same here, here's my current obsession:
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You’ll be happy with it.

 

[white ghost]

Regarding point number 5, you think capacity and not weight of an EDC is the only thing fair to compare?

If I were only viewing EDC, then no. However I was simply comparing cartridge to cartridge in their over simplified generalities. For example a 3" 44mag in an older Taurus tracker or similar style gun will weigh comparably to the 10 in a full size 1911, will size comparably, will still have more ME and hold 2 less rounds. Thus the 10 will have more capacity only. Though if you step up to a 5" 44 mag, the comparison in performance becomes non existent......except in capacity.

 

[greg vess]

I looked up the ballistics on a 40 cal plus p and the muzzle velocity is close the foot pounds of energy almost 200 lb more on the 10mm. So if you say a 10 mm like a hot 40 and you could easily say that the 10 mm is like a light 41 mag. A core Bond 41 mag with a 175 grain projectile has almost the exact velocity and same energy as the sig Sauer 10mm v crown jacket hollow point. Those who have a weaker caliber pistol are always looking to down a superior caliber. You can work the numbers any Way you want It if you look hard enough.

 

[greg vess]

No mistake about it the 41 mag. is in a different class altogether when you look at the hotter loads.