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Status of Bump Stocks

Are we still arguing about this? The crappy accessories that most of us laughed at because apart from being a novelty at the range for the first 5-6 minutes, most of us know that they are a gimick and not practical and so we wouldn't want to own one anyway... but now that they told us we can't, we feel the need to whine and demand a product that we didn't really like or want in the first place...

It's like listening to a bunch of 9 year olds...

The product was designed to take a semi-auto, and give it the same relative rate of fire as a full auto, without all the paperwork and restrictions. The full auto's were put on the NFA list with to begin with, due to their rate of fire. So making it easy for other guns to have that same rate of fire, even if it did it by slightly different mechanics, you had to scratch your head and wonder how long that was gonna last, didn't you? Be honest.

Kind of like the "you can now shoulder a brace without it being an SBR"... Yeah, we will do it and take advantage of the "current loophole" because it suits us, but again, let's be honest... 99.9% of us buying AR "pistols" with a brace, aren't doing it because we are wheelchair bound and missing one of our arms. We have them because it lets us build the equivalent of an SBR, without all the paperwork. And look at the new braces... come with softer rubber, some are now adjustable, like a stock. It's clearly an exploitation of the loophole, that we all like and will take advantage of, but in the back of our minds we aren't fooling ourselves and we should all figure it's probably just a matter of time before they see it for what it is and shut it down...

I bet that 9 out of 10 people bitching about the bump stock ban, didn't own one and probably made fun of them as a useless gimick before the ban... We just don't like being told that we can't have what we want, even when we don't really want it.

There, now you can yell and scream for another 2 days. :-)
 
Are we still arguing about this? The crappy accessories that most of us laughed at because apart from being a novelty at the range for the first 5-6 minutes, most of us know that they are a gimick and not practical and so we wouldn't want to own one anyway... but now that they told us we can't, we feel the need to whine and demand a product that we didn't really like or want in the first place...

It's like listening to a bunch of 9 year olds...

The product was designed to take a semi-auto, and give it the same relative rate of fire as a full auto, without all the paperwork and restrictions. The full auto's were put on the NFA list with to begin with, due to their rate of fire. So making it easy for other guns to have that same rate of fire, even if it did it by slightly different mechanics, you had to scratch your head and wonder how long that was gonna last, didn't you? Be honest.

Kind of like the "you can now shoulder a brace without it being an SBR"... Yeah, we will do it and take advantage of the "current loophole" because it suits us, but again, let's be honest... 99.9% of us buying AR "pistols" with a brace, aren't doing it because we are wheelchair bound and missing one of our arms. We have them because it lets us build the equivalent of an SBR, without all the paperwork. And look at the new braces... come with softer rubber, some are now adjustable, like a stock. It's clearly an exploitation of the loophole, that we all like and will take advantage of, but in the back of our minds we aren't fooling ourselves and we should all figure it's probably just a matter of time before they see it for what it is and shut it down...

I bet that 9 out of 10 people *****ing about the bump stock ban, didn't own one and probably made fun of them as a useless gimick before the ban... We just don't like being told that we can't have what we want, even when we don't really want it.

There, now you can yell and scream for another 2 days. :-)

You’re right about one thing. Most don’t care about bumpstocks specifically. It’s the premise behind the loss of a freedom to acquire or keep ownership of the “useless item”. The manipulation around due process to implement such a ban. One that threatens the freedom of acquisition and ownership of other more useful items.

When the ban expands to encompass binary triggers, you may say the same thing. “A novelty item that skirts the NFA so, who cares?” When it proceeds to 2 stage triggers then, moves on to eventually include all auto loading rifles; perhaps you’ll finally see what the real debate is about.

If you don’t see how dangerous the ban can be for the future of gun ownership then, it’s because you choose not to.

It’s okay though. You’ll still be able to keep your bolt action rifles...
 
You’re right about one thing. Most don’t care about bumpstocks specifically. It’s the premise behind the loss of a freedom to acquire or keep ownership of the “useless item”. The manipulation around due process to implement such a ban. One that threatens the freedom of acquisition and ownership of other more useful items.

When the ban expands to encompass binary triggers, you may say the same thing. “A novelty item that skirts the NFA so, who cares?” When it proceeds to 2 stage triggers then, moves on to eventually include all auto loading rifles; perhaps you’ll finally see what the real debate is about.

If you don’t see how dangerous the ban can be for the future of gun ownership then, it’s because you choose not to.

It’s okay though. You’ll still be able to keep your bolt action rifles...

Because in the end, part of me is honest enough to realize that under the current laws and restrictions around full auto weapons, it probably should not have been on the market to begin with... I am surprised it took this long to get pulled, if I am honest.

I am sorry that after 350 guns in my life, that I am not a 'REAL gun owner" because I don't tow the line on every single item the way that you do, but I can live with that...

It's a stupid novelty accessory to make your gun into something that is on the NFA list. It shouldn't have been sold to begin with, and was, only due to a technicality... Had it never been approved to begin with, none of us would miss it or be talking about it now...
 
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Because in the end, part of me is honest enough to realize that under the current laws and restrictions around full auto weapons, it probably should not have been on the market to begin with... I am surprised it took this long to get pulled, if I am honest.

I am sorry that after 350 guns in my life, that I am not a 'REAL gun owner" because I don't tow the line on every single item the way that you do, but I can live with that...

It's a stupid novelty accessory to make your gun into something that is on the NFA list. It shouldn't have been sold to begin with, and was, only due to a technicality... Had it never been approved to begin with, none of us would miss it or be talking about it now...

Toe the line......TOE the line. You tow a sail boat. Grammar NAZI insults ensue now. Thanks.
 
Because in the end, part of me is honest enough to realize that under the current laws and restrictions around full auto weapons, it probably should not have been on the market to begin with... I am surprised it took this long to get pulled, if I am honest.

I am sorry that after 350 guns in my life, that I am not a 'REAL gun owner" because I don't tow the line on every single item the way that you do, but I can live with that...

It's a stupid novelty accessory to make your gun into something that is on the NFA list. It shouldn't have been sold to begin with, and was, only due to a technicality... Had it never been approved to begin with, none of us would miss it or be talking about it now...
Although you directly replied, it seems pretty obvious that you didn’t read anything within the post. Your reply appears to shoot right back to what you “feel” the thread is about.

Nowhere in my post gave any implication to what I define as a “REAL gun owner”. If you care to disagree then feel free. However, you could at least disagree to what was written.
 
I bet that 9 out of 10 people *****ing about the bump stock ban, didn't own one and probably made fun of them as a useless gimick before the ban... We just don't like being told that we can't have what we want, even when we don't really want it.

There, now you can yell and scream for another 2 days. :-)


First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

- Martin Niemoller

Pretty much sums up why I'm against the Executive branch deciding to declare that a piece of plastic is now a machine gun - whether you actually have a gun with it or not, by the way.
 
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