Looking to do my first face to face firearms transfer

[gh1950]

Given what a bill of sale is, prove they didn't show you fake documents.

We're talking about does an unnotarized BOS prove anything ?

A Bill of Sale created post facto is as valid as one created contemporaneously with the transaction.

A standard BOS for anything is typically only signed by the Seller.

 

[The Southern Gentlemen]

I watched this in real life the first time I meet @geezer for our first deal!! It was priceless!!!

 

[BIKER13]

I just sign it Wile E Coyote in my best pharmaceutical penmanship and say thank you. Hadn't had anyone refuse it or the cash yet.

U.Ben Had is a good one to sign

 

[User170512]

In just for entertainment

 

[StuP]

A Bill of Sale created post facto is as valid as one created contemporaneously with the transaction.

A standard BOS for anything is typically only signed by the Seller.

A bill of sale's primary purpose is to record the transfer of ownership of an item between 2 parties and is generally used to prove ownership for the purchaser.

A legal document only signed by one party to the contract is worthless.

The point is, that anyone can create a bill of sale representing themselves as the buyer or seller of an item using any name and address for the other party. Signed or not, if the other party denies the transaction, you're going to need other substantiating evidence.

 

[tas6691]

"creating one later" and handed to an FBI agent would be a crime without having the actual seller's or buyers ID and the seller or buyers genuine signature (and the ID in which to compare it).

LOL!!!!

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

If a law or court ruling says a bill of sale is needed, or useful, then it IS.
Unless that same law or court ruling says it must be notarized to be relevant, or admissible, normally un-notarized bills of sale (receipts) will be admitted as evidence and The Jury will be instructed to assign whatever weight they see fit to them as evidentiary value.

Even if a B.O.S. somehow fails to meet a legal standard for a "bill of sale"
it can STILL be used to support / augment testimony, in court or at a deposition.
See the Evidence Code as to "refreshed recollection"
or "past recollection recorded."

 

[ole ed]

If a law or court ruling says a bill of sale is needed, or useful, then it IS.
Unless that same law or court ruling says it must be notarized to be relevant, or admissible, normally un-notarized bills of sale (receipts) will be admitted as evidence and The Jury will be instructed to assign whatever weight they see fit to them as evidentiary value.

Even if a B.O.S. somehow fails to meet a legal standard for a "bill of sale"
it can STILL be used to support / augment testimony, in court or at a deposition.
See the Evidence Code as to "refreshed recollection"
or "past recollection recorded."

Wow, y'all used up a month's worth of nickel words.

 

[gh1950]

If a law or court ruling says a bill of sale is needed, or useful, then it IS.
Unless that same law or court ruling says it must be notarized to be relevant, or admissible, normally un-notarized bills of sale (receipts) will be admitted as evidence and The Jury will be instructed to assign whatever weight they see fit to them as evidentiary value.

Even if a B.O.S. somehow fails to meet a legal standard for a "bill of sale"
it can STILL be used to support / augment testimony, in court or at a deposition.
See the Evidence Code as to "refreshed recollection"
or "past recollection recorded."

Exactly - account ledgers are routinely used to prove transactions, and one party doesn't even know they exist.

 

[gh1950]

A legal document only signed by one party to the contract is worthless.

Really?

Give me one of your signed checks, and I can prove otherwise.