Let’s play the “What is it?” game!

[cmshoot]

Some sort of Colt prototype?View attachment 3491462

No sir.

Guy who built it worked for Winchester.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

Prototype or inventors model .30 caliber carbine pistol.

Marked “Designed – Made by George F. Grebey, Sept. 1 1943” on butt and right side of frame.

Marked “30 cal. short-semi-auto, -gas action-“. Grebey worked for Winchester on the U.S. .30 Carbine.

Prototype or inventors model .30 caliber carbine pistol marked “Designed – Made by George F. Grebe

Prototype or inventors model .30 caliber carbine pistol marked “Designed – Made by George F. Grebe - Little John's Auction Service

www.icollector.com

 

[cmshoot]

Prototype or inventors model .30 caliber carbine pistol.

Marked “Designed – Made by George F. Grebey, Sept. 1 1943” on butt and right side of frame.

Marked “30 cal. short-semi-auto, -gas action-“. Grebey worked for Winchester on the U.S. .30 Carbine.

Prototype or inventors model .30 caliber carbine pistol marked “Designed – Made by George F. Grebe

Prototype or inventors model .30 caliber carbine pistol marked “Designed – Made by George F. Grebe - Little John's Auction Service

www.icollector.com

Yep.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

This rifle, at first glance, looks very much like a more famous rifle that came before it. But it's not that one, nor any variation or later issue of the more famous design.

 

[cmshoot]

Whitney-Kennedy, or a Whitney-Scharf. Can’t remember the differences.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

Not a Whitney - Kennedy.
(No open, serpentine -shaped cocking lever.)

Not a Whitney -Scharf.
BUT It sure does look like one in most respects!

Subtle differences: Round barrel vs. partially octagonal. Note lack of sharp pointed corners at the top and bottom ends of the curved butt plate. No notched metal at the front end of the receiver where the forend wood joins it. And the Whitney-Scharf uses an attachment band for the front end of the magazine tube that encircles the tube; my rifle doesn't do that.)

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

Sometimes this comes down to a game of "spot the differences" like from those comic illustration panels we used to see in the newspapers
(before everything went digital with online photoshopped pics.)

 

[Brettly1961]

Yep.

Good job.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

This rifle's already been mentioned in this "What is it" thread. But it was not the subject of the post-- it was mentioned while some other gun was being identified and its history discussed.

 

[outdoorsman4880]

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This rifle's already been mentioned in this "What is it" thread. But it was not the subject of the post-- it was mentioned while some other gun was being identified and its history discussed.

Colt 1883 or Colt-Burgess rifle. It's a very Winchester like rifle in .44-40. it's a little lighter than a Winchester 1873. Burgess also designed IIRC a pump shotgun but in reverse where you pump forward than back to cycle the action.