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How To Run a Pump Shotgun
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Link to Chris providing that “advice”?
If you send us one of his Manny Mansfield spoof videos I’m going to laugh at you.
It’s pretty clear the intent of the original post was to provide new shooters an easy to find and easy to follow reference to running their new shotgun safely. Instead of building upon that you chose to steer the focus away towards some minor point that is completely irrelevant. You then flooded the thread with posts in which you continue to belabor the point.
When the fallacious nature of your posts is pointed out you then flood the thread even further trying to defend your actions in a passive/aggressive manner.
I get the fact that many of us have a lot of spare time on our hands. Use it productively instead of counter productively. Don’t post in an effort to be heard for the simple sake of being heard.
Cheers.
Wheeler:
I made one post praising Chris Baker's recommendation about short length of pull on shotguns.
Then I made another post critical of his dominant hand grip on the shotgun.
I followed that up with just two more SHORT posts that were only photographic evidence of other people not doing it the way he recommends. One was me, and one was the firearms instructor for Mossberg pulled directly from the Mossberg website combat shotgun video.
That's it. Then I sit back to let others comment.
And nobody comments until the O.P. comes back with a snarky post ridiculing my background (building on the thread that's going on it's some other website where he, unsolicited posted his page long list of credentials and then started rattling off Chris Baker's list of credentials)
and basically saying
"well who are you to criticize any of what we say?"
So, then, I responded again with more evidence, and pointing out the logical fallacy of Lee's "my resume is longer than your resume"
line of argument.
But, all that being said, I have repositioned my thumb when shooting heavy-recoiling guns in response to getting tagged on the nose with the back of my own thumb (Bolt action milsurps, shooting high power matches, is where this comes into play). But even then, I only put it up to the 12 o'clock position, as Lee is shown doing in his photograph above. I don't do it the way that Chris Baker demonstrated on the video at the beginning of this thread.
I've never seen anybody else do it, I've never heard any instructor recommend it to anybody --until now.
I made one post praising Chris Baker's recommendation about short length of pull on shotguns.
Then I made another post critical of his dominant hand grip on the shotgun.
I followed that up with just two more SHORT posts that were only photographic evidence of other people not doing it the way he recommends. One was me, and one was the firearms instructor for Mossberg pulled directly from the Mossberg website combat shotgun video.
That's it. Then I sit back to let others comment.
And nobody comments until the O.P. comes back with a snarky post ridiculing my background (building on the thread that's going on it's some other website where he, unsolicited posted his page long list of credentials and then started rattling off Chris Baker's list of credentials)
and basically saying
"well who are you to criticize any of what we say?"
So, then, I responded again with more evidence, and pointing out the logical fallacy of Lee's "my resume is longer than your resume"
line of argument.
But, all that being said, I have repositioned my thumb when shooting heavy-recoiling guns in response to getting tagged on the nose with the back of my own thumb (Bolt action milsurps, shooting high power matches, is where this comes into play). But even then, I only put it up to the 12 o'clock position, as Lee is shown doing in his photograph above. I don't do it the way that Chris Baker demonstrated on the video at the beginning of this thread.
I've never seen anybody else do it, I've never heard any instructor recommend it to anybody --until now.
Chris Baker's video in the OP from Lucky Gunner is, overall, good stuff.
I only commented on the unusual aspects of it, not the predictable, boring-but -informative-to-newbies instruction it contains.
I only commented on the unusual aspects of it, not the predictable, boring-but -informative-to-newbies instruction it contains.
I like the looks of that strong hand grip. I bet itll induce less stress on the thumb and the hand. I have been smacked by my own thumb running a pump shotgun with a very heavy load. OP, thanks for the video and the links!
Around the 3:30 mark. He's a soy boy. So I'll laugh at you instead for being his little squeeze.Link to Chris providing that “advice”?
If you send us one of his Manny Mansfield spoof videos I’m going to laugh at you.
His Mansfield silliness, of which I wasn't even aware, further proves my point that he's on YouTube for hits, not meaningful instruction.
Around the 3:30 mark. He's a soy boy. So I'll laugh at you instead for being his little squeeze.
That is not what he said.
Is English not your native language? It's exactly what he says. He thinks having a round in the chamber is "silly." Later says, "Not only am I going to make some noise racking the shotgun..." He doesn't want to hurt the poor little criminal. He wants to avoid confrontation. SMDH
