I picked this up a while back and had the intentions of building it into my dream carry pistol :/ I knew when I saw this frame for the first time in the movie Wanted, that I had to try one some day...it may not work for everyone but it feels so...right, in my hand. With the proper grip, the pistol doesn't move at all. Ive listed it here, literaly 4x other times and everytime I end up deleting the add before I post it...but I think its time to let it go I have only ever seen 2x of these on the trader since Ive been active here. They are quite rare and don't pop up often. I will have a box and a single mag to gonwith the gun. Ill consider trades...semi auto shotguns, maybe a Glock plus cash (9mm or 45),Sig 320/365, maybe some bulk 9mm/.223/5.56 ammo, somrthing in 300 blk out maybe?