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Foregrip on an AR Pistol. New technicality?

I think someone said that since BCM markets it as a "Vertical Foregrip" that no, it wouldn't be, but by the ATFs interpretation it would be since it's clearly not 90* perpendicular of the bore. So strange.

To muddy the waters even more, is when people chop these grips to make handstops. Like where is the line, and why is it that someone would have to go to jail for all the vague-ry?
If you choose modify any factory parts you're stepping into gray territory...

*excuse me, THEIR territory
 
The rules have definitely 'evolved' over the last 30 years of AR pistols. For example the early ones couldn't have any kind of hand guards, although a heat shield or shroud was OK. Olympic Arms also built their first gun as a piston gun because they were afraid the buffer would be considered a 'stock'.

The thing to remember about all this was SBRs and SBSs were only included in the NFA because that Act was originally meant to ban handguns. They added the rules around SBS/SBR to prevent people from cutting down long guns into handguns.

That was their only intent, but when they pulled out handguns from the acts and added machine guns and suppressors instead, they left all the nonsense about SBR/SBS in place through sheer inertia, never really thinking how any of this would apply in a world where much more concealable handguns were still legal.
 
Not to muddy the waters but by that mentality wouldn’t it make it illegal if you touch it with your other hand? Regardless of what is forward of the mag well if you use your other hand it would change the entire dynamic. Btw it doesn’t matter, they will charge you regardless if they want and make you hire a scumbag, sorry, lawyer to defend against. This happened in banks county a few years back with uppers and lowers and sbr. The investigators put them together and tried to charge as illegal.

Using your other hand, per se, is pretty much irrelevant. The test is whether the part is intended to used with the other hand. YouTube is full of videos showing people using "braces" for shoulder stocks, but because the brace is not intended to be used in that manner, they slide by.

Why you have to send the whole gun in to get an opinion letter now.
 
Using your other hand, per se, is pretty much irrelevant. The test is whether the part is intended to used with the other hand. YouTube is full of videos showing people using "braces" for shoulder stocks, but because the brace is not intended to be used in that manner, they slide by.
As per the latest ATF decision (that we know of).
Previous interpretation was brace couldn't touch shoulder.
No reason they can't reverse themselves again.

Law means what they decide it means, at the time they decide.
Were it (almost) any other subject, Congress, their parent agency(s), or the courts would define limits on their 'interpretaion' scope. But no one wants to touch gun laws any more than they have to.
 
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