That rocks!
They got word that Biden won't be in the white house to back them up haha
They got word that Biden won't be in the white house to back them up haha
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Contact the ATF to keep pistol braces legal (merged threads)
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Oh and think about it guys. Biden supposedly gets in office in less than 30 days. At this close do you think the ATF would care at all about upset emails? No. This isn't to just delay until Biden supposedly takes office.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-members-reject-atf-targeting-of-popular-gun
And a link for all 9f you NRA haters - https://t.co/fXQGV1enxf?amp=1
"embiggen". Good word!
Or, are they just removing this notice from public review? The notice itself claimed review was not necessary.
Letter from congressmen was good. If only they could apply those points to the law.
The ATF has said, and even mentioned it in the last proposal (now withdrawn) that shouldering a brace doesn't make it a stock, or the gun an SBR. I seriously doubt they would try and reverse that, since it would get tossed the first time it was taken to court.
So, this thread from 2020 is a bit out of date.
UPDATE: ATF did it again, with a new proposal to ban all "arm braces" that are useful as shoulder stocks (even if they might also be useful as actual one-arm support braces).
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On June 7, 2021, the Attorney General signed ATF proposed rule 2021R-08, “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached ‘Stabilizing Braces,’” amending ATF’s regulations to clarify when a rifle is “intended to be fired from the shoulder.”
The proposed rule outlines the factors ATF would consider when evaluating firearms equipped with a purported “stabilizing brace” to determine whether these weapons would be considered a “rifle” or “short-barreled rifle” under the Gun Control Act of 1968, or a “rifle” or “firearm” subject to regulation under the National Firearms Act.
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ATF published the new proposed rule in The Federal Register and invited the public, and stakeholders in the industry, to comment.
The public comment period ended yesterday, 8 Sept. 2021, though mail-in comments that were postmarked yesterday might still be considered and added to the federal database of documents (the docket) over the next couple weeks.
I don't know how many comments were submitted, but that web page of The Federal Register where the announcement was made had nearly half a million page views so far since the new amended Rule was published in June of 2021.
UPDATE: ATF did it again, with a new proposal to ban all "arm braces" that are useful as shoulder stocks (even if they might also be useful as actual one-arm support braces).
QUOTE:
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On June 7, 2021, the Attorney General signed ATF proposed rule 2021R-08, “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached ‘Stabilizing Braces,’” amending ATF’s regulations to clarify when a rifle is “intended to be fired from the shoulder.”
The proposed rule outlines the factors ATF would consider when evaluating firearms equipped with a purported “stabilizing brace” to determine whether these weapons would be considered a “rifle” or “short-barreled rifle” under the Gun Control Act of 1968, or a “rifle” or “firearm” subject to regulation under the National Firearms Act.
What is Proposed in this Rulemaking?
The proposed rule would:- Amend the definition of “rifle” in 27 CFR 478.11 and 479.11, respectively, by adding a sentence at the end of each definition to clarify that the term “rifle” includes any weapon with a rifled barrel and equipped with an attached “stabilizing brace” that has objective design features and characteristics that indicate that the firearm is designed to be fired from the shoulder.
- Set forth a worksheet “Factoring Criteria for Rifled Barrel Weapons with Accessories commonly referred to as ‘Stabilizing Braces,’” ATF Worksheet 4999, to aid the firearms industry and public in understanding the criteria that ATF considers when evaluating firearm samples that are submitted with an attached “stabilizing brace” or similar component or accessory.
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ATF published the new proposed rule in The Federal Register and invited the public, and stakeholders in the industry, to comment.
The public comment period ended yesterday, 8 Sept. 2021, though mail-in comments that were postmarked yesterday might still be considered and added to the federal database of documents (the docket) over the next couple weeks.
I don't know how many comments were submitted, but that web page of The Federal Register where the announcement was made had nearly half a million page views so far since the new amended Rule was published in June of 2021.
Oh, you dreamer.
The new factoring criteria (when they implement it) will effectively make every AR/AK with less than 16” barrel a SBR unless you’re running just a smooth, bare buffer tube.
Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces” | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
On January 13, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule 2021R-08F, “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached ‘Stabilizing Braces,’” amending ATF’s regulations to clarify when a rifle is designed, made, and intended to be fired from the shoulder. The final rule was published in the...
Do you know what screw the ATF. Their boy Joe who is empowering them to do whatever they please. Just gave terrorists select fire heavy weapons and rocket launchers tanks Humvees helicopters everything he said we couldn't have. Or that we would need to stand up against them. As soon as they take back all those weapons from the Taliban, then they can start talking to me about what I can have and what I can't have. At some point or another we're just going to have to go to the ATF walk in there and take their desks away unplug all their computers and tell him to go pound sand. When the government gives terrorist organizations weapons beyond what any civilian can own. And does it with a smile on their face talking about a success. They negate any rights they have to the second amendment or any kind of restrictions they want to put on it
