I broke my son from skinny jeans by telling him that all he was doing was showing people that his package was so small he could fit in way to skinny of pants. It was an epiphany, he was quiet for a minute and then said "holy crap, your right" I almost fell out, I've never herd a teenager say that.My daughter only wears pants that cost extra pre-ruined. I told her those pants couldn't even be patched and my mom would throw them away.