I'm a die hard nitto fan and would rather have them than any other, except toyo OCll.. what arebyou running a 37x18 on? It takes raw power to clear the mud from the tread. My BBC has no trouble but the last diesel would only dig down cause it wasn't strong enough to clean em out.Well that stinks. I thought they might give more bite off road. I’ve gotten stuck twice in my yard on wet grass with the Open Country. They just don’t want to self clean like they are supposed to.