And so it begins

[FrogMan]

Yes sir, as requested. Realize this is but only one objective example and just here in Georgia and only for one volly of voting.

SB 350
Provides for returning stolen firearms to rightful owners and auctioning off those which cannot be returned instead of destroying them.

Sponsors
Senator Don Balfour (R)
Senator
George Hooks (D)
Senator
Freddie Powell Sims (D)
Senator
Bill Hamrick (R)
Ed Setzler (R)

Mar/29/2012 - House Vote #821 Yea(115 ) Nay(54) Not Voting (8) Excused(3)

Nays: Of the 54 nays all but one was Democrat
Yeas: Of the 115 yeas all were Republican except 8 Democrats and 1 independent

So I guess it’s how the numbers are presented. One could say there is a clear trend here or say the Democrats voted for pro-gun 8 times more…..or nearly half of the sponsors were Democrats. Exceptions will nearly always exist but I try not to allow it to sway my decisions or opinions.

This is but one Georgia bill but look critically at the trend and it seems fairly clear to me that Democrats voting to return stolen firearms to rightful owners and auctioning off those which cannot be returned instead of destroying them is not a high priority or concern for the vast majority of Democrats. I wonder where this vote would have gone if a 115 Democrats were making a decision on that day?

The question that begs to be asked, was this just an exception? Or is it more common place?

Source: http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/vote.aspx?VoteID=9403

wtf is that? its not even an anti 2nd amendment bill, its not to restrict sale or use of fire arms in any way shape or form but rather to allow government to resell stolen firearms, that's what we need expanded government that sell's guns! I wouldn't even support that except in rare cases where antique or historical pieces would be involved.
If this is your measure of being anti gun then me and my rather large gun collection are anti gun.

Oh and you still have not even attempted to answer my question

 

[RamRoddoc]

I'll stop here for tonight but present this. Also if you have not seen the smoking hot Senator Sandra Scott you are in for a real treat!

2011-2012 Regular Session - SB 432
Crimes and Offenses; define a certain term; political subdivision shall not enact any ordinance more restrictive of sale/possession of knife than general law

Senator Sponsors
Heath, Bill 31st (R)
Mullis, Jeff 53rd (R)
Barry Loudermilk (R)
Chip Rogers (R)
David Knight (R)

Mar/29/2012 - House Vote #820 Yea(124) Nay(46) NV(7) Exc(3)

Care to venture who voted nay? Seems a trend here as well, I guess knifes should not have the benefit of general federal/state laws……. We should have numerous laws that vary from county to county and even city. I don't see a problem there, do you?

Separate isolated issue with a non-firearm weapon or trend?

The smoking hot Democrat Sandra Scott (of Rex) link: http://www.house.ga.gov/representatives/en-US/member.aspx?Member=766&Session=21

Source: http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/vote.aspx?VoteID=9402

 

[RamRoddoc]

wtf is that? its not even an anti 2nd amendment bill, its not to restrict sale or use of fire arms in any way shape or form but rather to allow government to resell stolen firearms, that's what we need expanded government that sell's guns! I wouldn't even support that except in rare cases where antique or historical pieces would be involved.
If this is your measure of being anti gun then me and my rather large gun collection are anti gun.

Oh and you still have not even attempted to answer my question

Really? You don't see a corollary of anti-gun with anti-second amendment? Really that's your take home message?

If my gun was stolen and I provided the serial numbers, I'd like to have it back if recovered, rather than being crushed with no attempt to find the legal owner. You don't want this right?

Police property rooms fill full of stolen, lost etc guns. Ed's Safety/Pawn in Stockbridge buys them, the money goes back to the police department and the honest public gets a chance to purchase the weapons often at significantly reduced prices. You are against that?

Oh and you still have not even attempted to answer my question

Is not the irony compelling?

If you are thinking WTF? Go back to post #37 and #38.

 

[RamRoddoc]

I lied I'm not done yet.

Ok, ok, perhaps not a strong compelling argument for the 2nd Amendment and its intent. How about SB 26?

SB 26
Removes power to ban or restrict firearms during a state of emergency.

Mar/11/2011 - Senate Vote #114 Yea (40) Nay (12) NV(0) Exc (4)

Care to guess who compromised all of the 12 Nays? Of the 40 yeas only 5 were Democrats. No Republican voted against this bill. "Removes the power to ban or restrict firearms during a state of emergency" You still thinking WTF? Do you still think this has nothing with the right to keep and bear arms? Who declares an Emergency state and what qualifies for one?

Source: http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/vote.aspx?VoteID=7909

 

[RamRoddoc]

isn't that a bit like saying Romey is anty 2nd because he voted for restrictions?

Ok I'll answer this finally for you. The suspense was riveting wasn’t it?

Yes he is-and damn him for it. How much is hard to define? I was torn between voting for a guy who knew business and how to create but had accepted a compromise of the second amendment for whatever reason/s. I felt he knew what it would take to get the economy back on track and cut spending to prevent the ever increasing inflation that could be a death blow to our economy.

On the other hand not voting for a professional politician who never held a real job, served on the board directors of the Joyce foundation for 8 years, voted for every anti-gun bill introduced in Illinois, never created anything of worth, sent guns into Mexico to serve an agenda, initiated a chess move to allow the U.N. a say (potential regulation) in citizen small arms either at home or imported/exported, yet who polarized the right which brought unity and sold more guns and did more for the gun industry than probably any other politician. One thing about Americans when attacked we come together as a force to be reckoned with. Is the past election for the good of country? I think in some ways it will hurt us but in other ways we will become stronger, more aware and more proactive.

Where socialism/communism/tyranny wins is by dividing the people. A common theme is the rich verses the poor and has been effectively used throughout history. It is the dividing point we are experiencing currently. Frogman I hope you question everything I put out and is put to you. Hard answers with hard questions, don't accept what others perceive or perhaps a spin of propaganda, look at the data and make your own conclusions as long as the data has not been tweaked or manipulated to serve someone’s agenda. Awareness is critical to our success.

It’s far too often choosing the lesser of two evils, isn’t it? And so it begins.... great thread even though it was from an old outdated claim. Who would have thought?

RamRoddoc out and thank you for making me think sir.

 

[georgiabow]

And HiPoints, taurus judges, Jimenez, and all 1911's!

1911 is the only handgun i need anyways.

 

[FrogMan]

RamRoddoc.
both of your examples are of proposed laws to expand gun rights not restrict and that is not the other side of the same coin but anyway it seams from your numbers that Dems and Reps in Georgia are more split on party lines than actual issues and that's sad but its still a mute point because we are talking about federal regulations and there is just no way anything will be passed that restricts private gun ownership any further sure it might not get expanded but we wont see any restrictions and that is both due to Reps holding congress but even if that was not the case there is an increasing amount of dems that are pro 2nd so much so that even a Dem held congress would find it close to impossible to pass restrictions.

so as promised my source for the increase support of 2nd amendment among democrats making it unlikely we will see any more restrictions to gun ownership is Jamie Dupree political contributor on the Neal Boortz show. granted the extra spice about gun control becoming more of a geographical issue was my own.

 

[RamRoddoc]

RamRoddoc.
both of your examples are of proposed laws to expand gun rights not restrict and that is not the other side of the same coin but anyway it seams from your numbers that Dems and Reps in Georgia are more split on party lines than actual issues and that's sad but its still a mute point because we are talking about federal regulations and there is just no way anything will be passed that restricts private gun ownership any further sure it might not get expanded but we wont see any restrictions and that is both due to Reps holding congress but even if that was not the case there is an increasing amount of dems that are pro 2nd so much so that even a Dem held congress would find it close to impossible to pass restrictions.

so as promised my source for the increase support of 2nd amendment among democrats making it unlikely we will see any more restrictions to gun ownership is Jamie Dupree political contributor on the Neal Boortz show. granted the extra spice about gun control becoming more of a geographical issue was my own.

Sir Frogman,

You got to be shizzing me. You're just pulling my leash right? If not....

I feel you sir are currently unsalvageable and the only thing that might enhance your perception is a significant emotional event. Hopefully someone else obtained a bit more from this dialogue at least I did. I hope your world materializes in your utopia.

I got Representative Sandra Scott's digits (404.656.0314) if you want a date and discuss the utopia you have concocted. Good luck with that sir.

 

[Deleted member 20875]

Yeah I don't believe this will or would ever happen in the USA.

The UK thought the same thing

 

[FrogMan]

Sir Frogman,

You got to be shizzing me. You're just pulling my leash right? If not....

I feel you sir are currently unsalvageable and the only thing that might enhance your perception is a significant emotional event. Hopefully someone else obtained a bit more from this dialogue at least I did. I hope your world materializes in your utopia.

I got Senator Sandra Scott's digits (404.656.0314) if you want a date and discuss the utopia you have concocted. Good luck with that sir.

is it me or does Ramroddoc have a seemingly unhealthy infatuation with this Sandra, What does your Screen Name mean anyway?