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  1. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    You aren't wrong about the end goal, but the examples you give are all clearly part of your 'personal collection' according to the comment responses. You also held it for more than a year, and I doubt it would be coming in the factory box. If the reverse was true, those factors would be...
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    get ready for the Biogun!! finger and face ID.

    Been around for a while now. There was a whole bunch of noise about them last Fall if I remember right. They really only should be selling to large police departments. After all, cops are really the only ones who get their guns taken and used against them on a regular basis. If they work for...

  3. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    This rule is absolutely a PR stunt by Biden's team. It appeals to his base and satisfies the gun control crowd who complain he hasn't done anything. You can be sure the ATF was planning on going in guns blazing all Summer to make it seem effective, although that may have changed after the...

  4. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Like I said.. neither fish nor fowl. Kind of an in-between place when it comes to the law. How did we get here from the new ATF rule???

  5. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Cars have always been iffy... Technically you are out in public, unless you are on your own property. Is the 'inside' of your car truly like your home if you drive a convertible, or a Jeep with all the doors off? Even a regular car is way more exposed to public view than your home. Not...
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    Easiest way to clean your baffles!

    Except for 22 cans, I don't even worry about it. Some 22 cans will lock up solid if you run then too long though... might be worth a try on those.

  7. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Yup, according to the Library or Congress, it was sponsored by Marco Rubio (R). The 'bipartisan' part came because Chris Murphy (D) signed on when it was amended.

  8. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    In reference to??? It's a good idea to quote the post you are talking about...

  9. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Yup, a bunch of 'conservatives' voted for the 'bipartisan' safer community act that enabled this new rule.

  10. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Not the only one... The GOP in general is happy to vote against Dem gun control bills, but not willing to propose pro-gun bills themselves.

  11. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Not sure it would be a CYA, but you can expect a lot more of these types of things as they go after 'unlicensed dealers' due to the expanded definitions.

  12. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    There are a couple of 'gotcha' parts to the new rule that could be used to go after almost anyone. I put two of them in comments above. But generally I agree that they will probably start off going after the low hanging fruit. The people they probably could have gotten under GCA and FOPA if...

  13. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Here's another interesting piece of the rule... One of the 'exemptions' is that the guns you sell come from your 'personal collection'. I know I have lots of different types of guns in my 'personal collection', but the ATF seems to think that not all of them are... --------- Whether a firearm...

  14. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Funny thing is that as a bona fide collector you are in the best position of anyone regarding this new rule... Especially if you have a C&R. Almost none of the 'presumptions' would apply to someone in your position.

  15. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    The answer for now is don't be 'in the business' without an FFL or they will probably come knocking to make an example. You can bet folks that rent tables at gun shows repeatedly will be in the cross-hairs. I'm sure flippers on here will be a target as well, although that only seems to be...

  16. Gun show loop hole is going bye bye

    It's a rule that expands on the law that changed the old law... But you're right, for 99% of the folks here it's not going to change a thing. For now at least. There are some gotchas that could catch a lot of folks doing normal sales and trades here, if the ATF decides to use the vagueness in...
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    Item Gone: FS Ruger made marlin 1895 45-70

    Have all the factory stuff, box, doc, etc.?

  18. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    The 'same thing' as what? This is actual text from from the rule... it basically says 'repetitively' is once per year if you sell a gun in LNIB condition. That allows the ATF to 'presume' you are an unlicensed dealer. There is a lot more about it that I didn't cut and paste. Check page 185...

  19. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Here's one fun fact... ------------- The Department disagrees with the comments arguing that a firearm’s condition—or the fact that a firearm is in, or sold with, original packaging that contains manufacturer instructions and other useful items—is an arbitrary basis for a rebuttable...

  20. ATF new “rule” for no firearm Transaction without background check

    Yup, exchange of anything, even illegal drugs is called a sale.
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